(03-26-2024, 12:12 PM)homebiscuit Wrote:

(03-26-2024, 11:56 AM)Caldrac Wrote: This is my concern as well. Why I have had hard times wanting to get involved in politics and the voting process in the first place. I consider myself as someone that leans towards the Classical Liberalism school of thought. While also being considered a Fiscal Conservatist amongst my friends and family. 

I feel like the fringe left and fringe right have done a really good job at two things. 

1. Dividing the country and spreading it apart. 
2. Forcing people from the middle, such as myself, to actually get off my [BLEEP], get involved and vote. 

We've seen a lot of [BLEEP] flinging from both sides of the aisle. Whether you hate Antifa, BLM or the Proud Boys and other right wing militant style groups. There's been a great divide in our country and it's bleeding heavily at this time. 

I cannot comfortably look at any candidate on either side anymore with long term hopes for our future and my son's future. We've been contemplating on leaving the country at this rate. You know it's bad when you have 1st generation, eastern European war refugees around you telling you to "watch out", "be careful, be smart with your money, keep a passport up to date". 

I have had my wife's family from Bosnia and Germany and some of our other friends from Romania and Armenia tell me there's been clear, cut patterns here in our country that they all saw directly and indirectly in their homelands before it got really, really bad and really, really ugly. 

People laugh at the idea of civil war and civil unrest here in the states. These people from the Eastern Block know better, it's just a bullet away from popping off here. We're being governed by globalists in our country. It's a plutocracy in my opinion, not a real democracy anymore.

Our laws continue to be perverted and the lines continue to be blurred as the social dynamics and social engineering of these past few decades have officially seen it's roots become full on trees of implementation. We're losing this battle everyday as a nation. Hate to say it. I often go to bed in gloom. 

I don't expect these next few years to get any better or easier. Just seems like we're circling the drain, both, domestically and internationally.

I agree completely. Unfortunately, candidates like Trump appeal to the masses because 1) he’s not a career politician and 2) he’s the only one who has the nuts to call everyone out. Unfortunately, the guy becomes unhinged and needs to be called out himself. As a country, left and right, we have no good options for this election and it’s causing the country to become even more unbalanced. 

Until people begin to emerge from this adversarial spell we’ve been under and start confronting our own leaders instead of each other, the situation will continue to spiral downwards.

Circling the drain for sure. 

(03-26-2024, 03:37 PM)copycat Wrote:

(03-26-2024, 12:05 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: I really don't think we need a civil war.. That's the last thing this country needs.

To me, this is just idiot children who are lost in their own hatred for one man. 

Honest opinion time.. If another candidate ran on Trump's policies, that candidate would have a much easier time implementing those policies for the simple fact that he or she is not Trump.

These people are not thinking based off of policy. They're thinking based off of personal hatred..

Vivek was that guy IMO but he got zero traction.

I liked Vivek for a brief moment. He came on pretty strong, but, then he got up there and got busted for plagiarizing some of Obama's speech from a few years ago. Then you get into the whole rise to fame debate with him and the George Soros money that was linked to him, which, it does and doesn't bother me at the same time. 

I get annoyed easily though. 

We don't have a nation of true debaters anymore. We have a nation of people dressed up in suits and ties arguing like school children in front of the camera. Taking pot shots at one another. It feels like the amount of air time they use to just do that leaves a lot to be desired in what we really need to be hearing about. 

The biggest issue is money though, as long as money is involved in our political system, we're going to continue to see this same cycle of nonsense and distractions. Lobbyism has sapped the integrity out of our system and career politicians in conjunction with congress have accepted globalism to our nation's detriment. 

I cannot explain it, other than what it feels like to me as the modern beginnings of what the fall of Rome must have felt like in ancient times. The country has become so big, so powerful, so drunk on it's own ego and accomplishments (something most of today's candidates had nothing to do with) that it's spread itself and stretched itself too thin. 

We really need a serious reformation in our country. I think, in order for us to reach that reformation, we're going to have to go backwards for a little bit longer until it really sinks in for the general public and population. We're seeing some of it now. From all communities. Due to inflation and the pandemic that slowed us down a few years ago and continues to still have it's effect on us today. 

Just interesting times right now to be an American. However, we all want change, we all want better for ourselves. Just comes down to who can lead us to it, who can balance it all out and who can clean up this mess. Starts with us at home, for sure and then locally.

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