(03-29-2024, 07:33 PM)copycat Wrote:

(03-29-2024, 10:23 AM)mikesez Wrote: I'm not a liberal in this sense.
Conservatives used to believe that character was destiny.
So when someone says, "I know Trump has bad character, but I'm voting for him anyways," that person wouldn't have been called a Conservative ten years ago.  The "let's ignore personal failings and focus on winning or on changing policies" folks were the liberals.

Mike, Mike, Mike, Mike!   You are a liberal in almost every sense and you are still missing the point.  Conservatives used to believe in honor and integrity, but where has that gotten them?  The left lies, misrepresents, and distorts everything all with a compliant legacy media covering for them. You cannot play by the old playbook when your message is unable to reach the masses without being distorted.

You misunderstand what I mean about character. 
Character is not revealed in a campaign speech or a policy proposal.  A campaign speech might be uplifting or nasty and it would still say nothing about the character of the person making it.  A campaign speech might be 100% facts or mostly lies and still reveal very little about a person's character. 

What you would do to get what you want is only a small part of character.  It's the part that everyone sees when you're competing.  How you take care of what you wanted after you get it is the much larger part and only revealed slowly over time.  People with good character tend to have lifelong friends, lifelong employees, and stay married til death if they get married.  People with bad character rarely have any of those things.

As someone said more succinctly, character is who you are when no one's looking. But that is revealed over time to the people who know you best.

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