(04-01-2024, 07:54 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: You two will bend over for anything.

No. It has not been this way since the beginning of time. There have been pockets of time where we have broken through, to varying degrees, from establishment control. America has been, at the very least, the best representation of that in modern history, at least up until the 80's. We were already starting to see expansive government control as a result of the cold war, but it was tempered by a mixed establishment that fought against the deep state. Reagan ceded power to the companies that increased their power like never before. Bush gained more executive control of wartime power. Clinton made America business global. GW enhanced the surveillance state, and Obama, once again, expanded executive power, and he also fundamentally changed the way government and corporations do business. Instead of regulation, we subsidize incentives.

Every single one of those policy shifts has affected our say in government. So, yes, while the rich have always had a greater say, we had measures in place to insulate ourselves. That's diminishing with the growing number of political cucks that don't have the balls to stand up for their rights.