(04-01-2024, 04:00 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Lol, you guys can't get out of black and white. There needs to be competition, and there needs to be classes. What doesn't need to exist is a ruling class. People with too much money become a ruling class. The system of government set up by our founders clearly didn't stop it. Our vote and voice clearly didn't stop it, and we're heading in the wrong direction. What's going to stop it? You guys get so caught up in economic capital that you neglect political capital.

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(04-01-2024, 02:56 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: In your effort to root out evil, you yourself have become the communist villain.  What a movie twist that would be.  You can't put one foot on the slippery slope (actually it's probably both) and pretend everything is fine and will continue to be fine.  I've never seen someone post so much that is right and then get something this disastrously wrong but I guess that's what makes people interesting.  These little political stance deviations from expectations.  And no, I don't demand ideological purity because I understand that ideologies all have their faults, even the ones I subscribe to. 

Freedom has its negatives.  Your version of freedom could be perfect "if only we could cap incomes."  You are never going to get the Utopia you're chasing.  And even if you're not, you'd be handing true communists one of their most powerful tools of control because who decides what is too much wealth?  If it's any person or group of people other than the individual earner, wrong answer.  And I'll add, you can't say what you have said without some level of jealousy or hatred (or both) toward billionaires so I think your declaration that none of that is present in your stance is disingenuous.

I almost wasn't going to respond to this post, because you clearly don't understand either my position or communism. There is zero jealousy towards billionaires. My ideas are rooted in philosophy, as is every moral. You are diminishing my position to elevate your belief.

I get where you are coming from however you are trying to control Political capital by constraining economic freedom.  I think you can achieve much of what you are asking for by attacking how huge money is influencing politics.  Corporations should not be allowed to donate vast sums of cash while writing it off to politicians.  The ability of PAC’s to influence politics has to be limited, and yes I know I am a broken record here but every bill submitted in congress needs to be a single issue.  One last thing comes to mind, if an elected representatives net worth exceeds a certain percentage in any given timeframe there should be a triggered audit of their finances and no offshore account.

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