(04-03-2024, 12:26 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(04-03-2024, 10:06 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: I actually don't think people believe this at all.

It just seems like Trump is immune to all criticism because his fan base (and yes... Fan base) believes he is a messiah. I mean he's grifting them and getting them to buy bibles and sneakers lol

Even my last sentence will be turned into "Oh look. He's got TDS sooooo bad" when that's not the case.

ALL POLITICIANS INCLUDING TRUMP ARE DIRTY AND THEY ARE ONLY LOOKING OUT FOR THEMSELVES. Biden sucks. Trump sucks. Newsome sucks. Desantis sucks. They all suck.

It's a chicken or the egg thing, man. Trump does have "fans," no doubt. You haven't really given your opinion on this board enough for me to think you have TDS, but I don't doubt some of his fans might say that about you. 

Trump is not immune from criticism on the right. I myself don't think the dude is going to get us where we need to go. He is the symptom that should be making us aware of our national sickness. The problem is that too many people on this board keep pretending we aren't sick. More importantly, they are trying to get rid of the symptom and not the sickness. We can't get rid of the Trumps until we get rid of the other corruption in this country. 

My complaint for the last 4 years is the moderates who will not acknowledge the real problem. People will support Trump because he's at least talking about the problem.

(04-03-2024, 12:28 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote:

(04-03-2024, 12:21 PM)EricC85 Wrote: So we're at the point that MAGA admits trump is dirty but it's ok because everyone else is to?

Conservatism truly is dead.

No [BLEEP]. Conservatism died a long time ago. Trump isn't a conservative. He's stating the problem, which is a broken and corrupt establishment. You cannot have conservatism without a healthy and accountable establishment. Your cause and effect is backwards.

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(04-03-2024, 12:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: When a conspiracy theorist who believes random nut-jobs ranting on YouTube  attempts to tell me why I think something I'm not even thinking...

Ah look at you falling back on your strawman. You're so cute when you can't debate the facts.