(04-22-2024, 09:32 AM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-21-2024, 11:10 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: I play in both PPR and non-PPR leagues. There's always going to be a healthy degree of luck involved with fantasy sports, but scoring deviations from standard formats often times shift the balance a little more toward skill in my opinion.  I'm in one local non-PPR league, one local .5 PPR league and the rest (there's a bunch) are all 1 PPR.  I'm always annoyed with the non-PPR one because of how much more luck seems to play a part, probably because TDs are so variable and mean more in them.  Although I did win that league last year for the 2nd time since I joined about 8 years ago.  At any rate, I strongly disagree.  PPR is vastly superior unless you like luck having a greater say in determining week to week match ups and by extension league champions.

Either way you can't count on TDs.  You need to find guys whose bad or unlucky games are still pretty good.  A guy who puts up 80 yards and no TDs on one of his bad weeks is more valuable than a guy who will put up 150 and two TDs one week then disappears the next. It's all about avoiding zeros. And that's true whether you play PPR or not.

My main gripe with PPR is it allows you to build a good team with guys from bad teams who routinely catch that 5 yard swing pass on 3rd and 10. Fill your RB and flex positions with those guys and let every other owner chase the next derrick Henry.  I wouldn't have a problem with that if real NFL teams had real success with such a strategy but they don't. The team has to punt but the fantasy owner gets a point.  Dumb.  But I do see how it can be more fun for the guys who don't draft well.

And you've stated the real gripe people that don't like PPR have which is "it's not like the real NFL".  Not the first time I've heard that.  I would argue that nothing about Fantasy football is like the real NFL since they don't award points for yardage either.  If you want realism, go play in a TD only league or a contract league, both of which sound miserable to me.  The contract league maybe has some appeal, but I'm trying to spend less time on fantasy not more and I think the contract leagues would require more of my time.

Your comment on skill level of drafting doesn't compute though.  I routinely see [BLEEP] fantasy players do well much more often in non-PPR than in PPR.  In my PPR leagues, the casuals have [BLEEP] teams all season.  Also, with points only coming from yardage and TDs, TDs absolutely mean more in non-PPR than they do in PPR.  

non-PPR = reliant on two stats to generate points: yardage and TDs.  TDs are unpredictable.
PPR = reliant on three stats to generate points: yardage, receptions and TDs.  TDs are unpredictable, but account for a significantly lower percentage of total points scored in this format vs non-PPR.  Points from receptions for many WRs, TEs and RBs will dwarf what they put up in TDs

One of these involves more luck of the draw than the other whether you want to brush it aside or not.  Nothing is wrong in playing leagues that involve more luck.  I don't need Fantasy distilled into something that is 100% skill and 0% luck, but as far as the level of luck involved between these two scoring systems, I prefer PPR for separating the quality players from the casuals.  If you are doing a family league or "just for fun" work league with casual fans, non-PPR may make more sense in keeping everyone or most everyone engaged past the first 5 or 6 weeks.

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