(06-17-2024, 01:09 PM)Mikey Wrote:

(06-17-2024, 12:20 PM)cland Wrote: Okay, okay...let's talk about 2022, Lawrence was the 5th highest QB in the league in turnovers, despite having his best performance so far with 25 TDs and only 8 INTs.  He lost 9 fumbles, that's 4 more than any other QB in the league.  And before you jump back to "Turnovers don't eqaul INTs": in the Jags miraculous playoff comeback, which I give Trevor tons of credit for, he threw 3 INTs in the first half and added another one in the second...which is pretty strange for "the toughest QB in the conference to pick off."

So to sum up, your point is:

2021 - Outlier
2022 - Counts if you only consider INTs but not fumbles, but the playoffs were an Outlier
2023 - Outlier
2024 - The Head Coach's recent statement about Trevor having to reduce turnovers: Outlier

"It’s the biggest thing that he has to focus on moving forward,” Pederson said, via ESPN. “We just can’t have this amount of turnovers. How we turn the ball over, where we turn the ball over, it doesn’t matter. We’ve got to protect the football. That’s the No. 1 thing. For the quarterback, the person that touches the ball every snap, we got to make sure the emphasis is taking care of the ball."

And here's the craziest thing, the last time we had a similar 'discussion' you got on me because I called Trevor elite where you preferred could be elite.


I also stated "I'm hoping that Lawrence has a reasonable OL, WR, run game, and health through the 2024-25 season so that his (yearly) statistical stats match up with his performance."  The QB has to have consistency for the team to be considered in the upper tier of NFL franchises.


Finally for all of the "You're a Troll" happy posters, I've been here since 2006.  Expressing thought out opinions doesn't make someone a troll (or a clown/douche-nozzle^), even if you disagree.  If you're into that sort of thing check out /r/jaguars on reddit and downvote anything that indicates that Trevor still has some work to do before being considered a top 5 NFL QB.

44% of Trevor's lost fumbles in all of 2022 came in a singular game. Is there a word for a stat like that?