(06-27-2024, 04:32 PM)Mikey Wrote:

(06-27-2024, 01:47 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Just saw Lawrence and his miss's are expecting their first one on the way. Hell yeah! That's our QB! Made TWO big deposits this off season.

so we make like when they got married and everyone in Duval buy them a ton of diapers?

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(06-27-2024, 02:12 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Nope. I will stand on business here. Goff has helped turn Detroit around over the last two years. Had it not been for some questionable coaching decisions in the NFC Championship game, there's a good chance they would go onto beat Kansas City in the Superbowl in my opinion. 

Goff has had a number of quality seasons to his name, not just in Detroit recently, but as well as in Los Angeles. Including the Superbowl appearance and loss to the Patriots. Stafford still has a strong arm, he's a great veteran, he's won the Superbowl. I think two years ago nobody would question my statement. 

People forget he threw for 41 TD's that year they won the Superbowl. They went 9 - 3 with him last year and he's had some injuries catch up to him over the last two years. 

And, as I cited off the giddy up, it's just for 2024. Not beyond. Especially with Goff hitting 30 years of age this year and then Stafford, like you said, nearing the end of his career. I think both guys are leading teams right now that are play-off caliber and potentially even Superbowl bound if things go their way. 

Lawrence has to get his turnovers under control. He'll have his opportunity in 2024 to do that as a fourth year Quarterback. I am confident he's the 2nd half of 2022 and 1st half of 2023 QB that's barely scratched the surface. With a little more competency around him, which, again, the rest of the guys ranked higher than him clearly have or have had, he'll be just fine and contesting for top three, four QB consideration in the entirety of the NFL.

Just not quite ready to throw him into that echelon yet. Need to see it first. That's why I lumped him in with Stroud and Love. As it stands, they only have one play off appearance to their names and they could go either way in 2024 in my opinion. You either see them take a big step forward towards translating elite traits into elite statistics and moments, or, they remain relatively static or fall backwards a bit.

Goff was a slow developer, but he's in a great spot now. I've never been able to get past how he wilted once the Pats discovered he couldn't figure things out (MUCH earlier in his career mind you) once the in-helmet comms went silent. I still have a hard time acknowledging that he's competent, but you can't deny that he's getting the job done with the loins.

Not sure I agree with Goff being a slow developer. Went 0 - 7 as a rookie and then immediately saw a different QB in years two and three with back-to-back Pro Bowl appearances, winning seasons and stats to back it.

All within a relatively difficult NFC West to compete in. I think Goff is underrated.

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