(06-28-2024, 05:10 AM)Caldrac Wrote:

(06-27-2024, 04:32 PM)Mikey Wrote: so we make like when they got married and everyone in Duval buy them a ton of diapers?

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Goff was a slow developer, but he's in a great spot now. I've never been able to get past how he wilted once the Pats discovered he couldn't figure things out (MUCH earlier in his career mind you) once the in-helmet comms went silent. I still have a hard time acknowledging that he's competent, but you can't deny that he's getting the job done with the loins.

Not sure I agree with Goff being a slow developer. Went 0 - 7 as a rookie and then immediately saw a different QB in years two and three with back-to-back Pro Bowl appearances, winning seasons and stats to back it.

All within a relatively difficult NFC West to compete in. I think Goff is underrated.

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To clarify, I said slow developer in the sense that he seemed to require a LOT of handholding (or maybe this is just McVay's m.o.) early on. For a first overall pick, you kinda expect a QB to not only have a grasp on playbook, but to be fluent enough to either audible or improvise when opportunities arise. We haven't seen that same level of dependence on coach or coordinator out of guys like Tlaw, Stroud(I know he wasn't #1), Burrow.

He seems to be a different player in Detroit. The change suited him well.

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