(06-28-2024, 09:24 AM)jaglou53 Wrote: Last night's debate had the 2nd best possible outcome for Democrats. The best would have been an energetic and lucid Joe Biden; that outcome disappeared about 5 minutes into the "debate." The horrible and sad performance by Biden made it totally obvious that if Democrats want to win they must convince him to withdraw. Since the Democratic party has a history of self-destructive behavior (not unlike the Republicans), I'm not so sure they will pressure him to step down. If this doesn't happen after the post-debate polls, the Democrats will have no one to blame but themselves.