(07-22-2024, 12:40 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:

(07-22-2024, 11:22 AM)HURRICANE!!! Wrote: Biden/Harris was the only name on the ticket.  I could have gotten 14m votes if my name was the only name on the ticket.  I'm stating 31m no-shows speaks higher volume.  If the Dems are upset about the process, they can vote Trump or simply not vote.   Personally, I'd prefer Joe Manchin but I think it's only right to nominate Kamala as the candidate.  If the Dems lose or even if they win, perhaps I'll get Manchin in 2028 via a true Primary which is fine with me.

To be honest, I'm not afraid of a Trump victory ..... I WAS fearing a Biden victory as of late so I'm ok with the options as currently anticipated (Trump vs Harris)

Yes, you've been a reasonable and relatively moderate opposition voice which I greatly respect.  However, we're having a back and forth on the comment I made regarding subverting Democracy which you took issue with and I explained was due to the fact that Harris was selected and not elected.  You're forgetting or avoiding the hypothetical I posed of her having to go through an open primary this past year on her own and refusing to opine on what you think her chances would have been.
In accordance with the defined process, that is not required.  Would I like to have a vote? Yes.  //  Would I vote Kamala in a 2024 August Primary? I would vote for her to keep the peace but she is not my 1st choice (i like Manchin #1 but he's not even Dem anymore .... and Shapiro #2)  // Do I think the Dems did the right thing?  Yes.  Also, she now has the electoral votes to proceed (in accordance withe the process)

This will have been 2 of the last 3 Democratic primaries where the will of the people was not necessarily honored or, in the case this year, even needed.  In 2016, super delegates pledged extremely early for Hillary which not only gave her a significant lead in delegates, but likely swayed undecideds to the side of the presumed winner and/or encouraged some Bernie supporters to just stay home.  Super PACs are the norm and are not illegal--- yes, it sucks but that's the way politics go    Even in 2020, certain candidates with no chance of winning stayed in the race longer than usual in what appeared to be an effort to thwart Bernie's chances, though admittedly it may not have mattered that year as Biden was seen as a connection to the popular on the left Obama years anyway.  (If Biden in fact made a deal for Pocahontas to say in the race to peel voters off of Bernie, kudos for good primary election strategy on his part) Can't control who stays and who goes.  Otherwise there should only really be 2-3 candidates to begin with because all the others are just in there for recognition, knowing they have no chance.

I completely agree that given the current scenario and circumstances, she is the rightful candidate and I believe she's the only one that has a legitimate claim on Biden's existing war chest of campaign funds as well.  Yep, it is what it is - just glad there wasn't a revolt.  lol

Sidenote:  If Kamala wins in 2024, the Dems may need to run the course in 2028 or face backlash.  Would this really be better than starting fresh in 2028 with a new face of the party?   Only time will tell.  Just glad Biden is out .... I could not bear to watch him or listen to him anymore.

My 2 cents above

(07-23-2024, 08:08 AM)Jagwired Wrote: Brings to mind a old parents/mom's threat to their child during a disagreement. " I brought you into this world and I will damn sure take you out."

Exactly what happened to creepy pedo joe.