(08-09-2024, 09:37 AM)Jag149 Wrote:

(08-09-2024, 07:12 AM)mikesez Wrote: I am only trying to tell you that your focus on chromosomes indicates you don't understand biology very well.  People with complete androgen insensitivity are women with XY chromosomes.  None of them are men. I don't care if or where they compete in sports.  But they are women.

No they are not women, they are intersex women, I guess you could just as easily call them intersex men too. It is quite ok they identify as women. However, it is not ok to compete against women that do not have the Y chromosome. Intersex women do have the Y, giving them an unfair advantage over women.  Below is the Wiki link since that seems to be your preferred source.  Everyone on the board understands this, no one is saying it is not that way, we are not dense. So there are Women - Intersex women&men -Men.   Now that we all understand this and agree there are people like this you don't need to tell us anymore right? 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man


It still is not right for these humans to compete against men. It has not been right in the past and not correct in the future. They are manipulating the system for their own ends the East Germans did almost the same thing using drugs. People that do this are eventually caught. Every time in the past when they have tried once uncovered the accomplishments have been stripped (it was a big deal)  Have some of these humans tried to be cheat and were successful ? You do not know and neither do I.

You keep repeating this for some reason over and over. It gives me the impression you have a different agenda. Or you are showing off because you slept in a Holiday Inn last night.

If you want that to be the rule, fine, just understand that it would be a new rule.  Understand the chromosome and DNA testing is new.  Understand that some of our past women's champions, we don't know which ones, we will never know which ones, had Y chromosomes.  Changing the rules of the sport is fine but *you* are the one calling for the change.

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