(08-10-2024, 05:19 PM)copycat Wrote:

(08-10-2024, 04:52 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: Allow me to clarify. 

I am not calling you a moderate because you are in the middle. I'm grouping you in with a class of voters that don't really want to rock the boat. They are "safe" voters. 

There is a group of people on the left and right, who identify with the old guard. You have Bush and Reagan Republicans who see Trump as a threat to conservatism. You have JFK and Clinton Democrats who think the left is becoming too radical. I consider these people to be moderates... not because they are in the middle, but because they see themselves as connected to the establishment. They care more about people that are causing a disturbance to the system than they do the system is breaking. 

So long as politicians play ball and say the right thing, the people I call moderates will turn the other cheek, even if the establishment candidates are selling out Americans, and I consider the people I called out the "safe" voters. 

Moderate is not the right word, so I will retract it. I don't really have a better word for it, though.

My stance is unless you Trumpsters call him out for the stupidity he does he will lose the people he needs to win this election.  He thought of Harris negotiating with world leaders on behalf of America scares the [BLEEP] out of me which is exactly what is going to happen if Trump keeps stoking the fires with unnecessary insults.

I'm hardly a Trumpster. I know what he is. You guys just keep worrying about people who are offended by reporters who point out that Trump is attacking corruption in an uncouth way. Who cares. People need to stop being offended by the wrong thing. It's FAR more offensive to me that the lying media and corrupt politicians are not being held accountable for the wanton disregard of our institutions than a loudmouthed, narcissist who wants America to be the country of his childhood and says stuff the wrong way. Grow the [BLEEP] up. I don't like the dude, but you need a bull in times like this, and they are never gentle. 

Name me one other candidate with the balls to go after a system that is strong enough to crush the average American. Who would be able to stand against it without being called crazy? Who can talk for hours a day without something being stupid? Haley? She's part of the problem?

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