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That BAP VS Need Debate

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03-31-2014, 07:55 PM

Quote:I'm not following.  That's the very definition of BAP.
 

But not everyone drafts from the same board.  This is something I always complained about with Gene, although part of his problem was lousy scouting.  But lets say we've got two picks in the 4th.  One early in the round and one late.  And when the first of those two picks is up, there are two guys we've got 2nd round grades on still available followed by a big drop off to the next group.  Lets say one of those players is a big named player everyone talked about overnight stunned he was still available.  And the other guy is some small school player that we absolutely love but know he isnt as highly thought of by others or even not known by many.  Maybe we rank the smaller school guy slightly higher and if we were picking true BAP he would be our selection.  But if we feel pretty confident the bigger named player wouldnt be available by the time our 2nd pick in the round approaches but the smaller school guy most likely would be, it would be dumb of us to go BAP.  Odds are we can get two players with 2nd round grades by ignoring BAP and using common sense to maximize our value.

 

Maybe somewhat of an extreme example but its something Gene was guilty of repeatedly.  And its probably something of a frequent occurrence especially later in the draft when many teams abandon "value" and are going after specific players who fill needs or fit their particular system.


If you read up on the preparations teams make leading up to the draft, a big piece of it is trying to figure out what other teams are doing and who other teams like.  Many teams share scouts so they have an idea which teams like which players and which players are getting a lot of love and which one's arent.  I remember reading something about the Ravens draft preparations and by the end of it they only have a 100 or 150 players even on their board.  The Patriots apparently only have like 75!  A guy we may have a 2nd round grade on another team may not even have listed.  Point is teams dont draft from the same board so BAP to me is completely different than BAP to you.  Which means BAP doesnt necessarily maximize value.

 

The recipe for draft success is 90% scouting well, 5% common sense, and 5% luck.  Drafting philosophy is irrelevant.


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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Dakota - 03-29-2014, 11:38 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by MalabarJag - 03-30-2014, 12:08 AM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 03-30-2014, 01:15 AM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by PAjagsfan - 03-30-2014, 11:05 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Haterade - 03-30-2014, 11:13 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by 1981 - 03-30-2014, 11:59 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by rfc17 - 03-30-2014, 12:34 PM
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The Jungle Forums is the Jaguars' biggest fan message board. Talking about the Jags since 2006, the Jungle was the team-endorsed home of all things Jaguars.

Since 2017, the Jungle is now independent of the team but still run by the same crew. We are here to support and discuss all things Jaguars and all things Duval!