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That BAP VS Need Debate

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Quote:And every ounce of this premise is why BAP is no longer employed, by any GM.


You simply must have both need and value in the equation. All teams get this. BAP is an antiquated notion that would only work in a vacuum or perhaps Madden. It is based upon assumptions that are faulty, if not unrealistic, such as "JUST TRADE DOWN" or "JUST FILL THE NEED WITH A STOPGAP" (until the BAP is that position, I guess)


The notion that any team in the league in need of sayyyyyy a LT would take a QB they have rated, for argument's sake a 91, when they have a Top 10 QB when there is a LT prospect they have rated a 90 is just laughable.


Oh I know.....Just trade down......I'm sure that is just that easy or reliable.


Except playing Madden. Just don't save and start over until it gets right for you.
 

I'm thinking GMs likely factor position into the grade from the start. A good D-lineman is more valuable than a good punter, for instance, but if a guy is going back after he's done grading everyone out in an objective way including their position and then takes the lower rated guy because he thinks he needs to fill a roster spot then he's making a wrong move. Always making the good move doesn't insure success, but abandoning your own ability to order talent reveals someone as a guy that can't even follow his own convictions.

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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Dakota - 03-29-2014, 11:38 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by MalabarJag - 03-30-2014, 12:08 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by FranTheMan-ziel - 03-30-2014, 12:38 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by SuperJville - 03-30-2014, 12:50 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 03-30-2014, 01:15 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Senor Fantastico - 03-30-2014, 03:10 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 03-30-2014, 09:13 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by PAjagsfan - 03-30-2014, 11:05 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Haterade - 03-30-2014, 11:13 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by 1981 - 03-30-2014, 11:59 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by rfc17 - 03-30-2014, 12:34 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 03-30-2014, 12:47 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 03-30-2014, 12:49 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 03-30-2014, 12:53 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Etdavis2006 - 03-30-2014, 03:35 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Mad Dog - 03-30-2014, 06:32 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by knarnn - 03-30-2014, 07:21 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 03-30-2014, 07:45 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 03-30-2014, 07:51 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by knarnn - 03-30-2014, 09:19 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 03-30-2014, 09:52 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Etdavis2006 - 03-30-2014, 10:07 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Jinjo - 03-30-2014, 11:59 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Jungle Cat - 03-31-2014, 03:40 AM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 03-31-2014, 08:03 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 03-31-2014, 10:52 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by MalabarJag - 03-31-2014, 11:17 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 03-31-2014, 11:19 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 03-31-2014, 11:51 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 03-31-2014, 12:09 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by HURRICANE!!! - 03-31-2014, 12:17 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by jackinblack - 03-31-2014, 01:59 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by rfc17 - 03-31-2014, 04:00 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 03-31-2014, 04:23 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by knarnn - 03-31-2014, 05:42 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 03-31-2014, 05:44 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Deacon - 04-01-2014, 10:32 AM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-01-2014, 05:15 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-01-2014, 05:22 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Eleventh Doctor - 04-01-2014, 05:25 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by HURRICANE!!! - 04-01-2014, 05:32 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Jungle Cat - 04-01-2014, 06:11 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 04-01-2014, 06:23 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by PAjagsfan - 04-01-2014, 06:59 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-01-2014, 07:14 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-01-2014, 07:19 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Jungle Cat - 04-01-2014, 07:43 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by MalabarJag - 04-01-2014, 07:49 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 04-02-2014, 09:20 AM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-02-2014, 12:08 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 04-02-2014, 02:49 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-02-2014, 04:30 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Eleventh Doctor - 04-02-2014, 04:38 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Eleventh Doctor - 04-02-2014, 05:00 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Eleventh Doctor - 04-02-2014, 06:09 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-02-2014, 06:15 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 04-02-2014, 06:17 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 04-02-2014, 06:47 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 04-03-2014, 10:26 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-03-2014, 10:28 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Mad Dog - 04-03-2014, 10:29 AM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-03-2014, 12:26 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by jtmoney - 04-03-2014, 12:44 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Eleventh Doctor - 04-03-2014, 12:45 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-03-2014, 12:47 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by jtmoney - 04-03-2014, 12:47 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 04-03-2014, 12:53 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-03-2014, 01:06 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 04-03-2014, 01:24 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-03-2014, 01:34 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by PAjagsfan - 04-03-2014, 01:55 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 04-03-2014, 01:57 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 04-03-2014, 02:22 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 04-03-2014, 02:33 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Mad Dog - 04-03-2014, 03:02 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by knarnn - 04-03-2014, 03:07 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 04-03-2014, 04:30 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-03-2014, 04:39 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-03-2014, 04:42 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-03-2014, 04:46 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Etdavis2006 - 04-03-2014, 04:47 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-03-2014, 04:56 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Mad Dog - 04-03-2014, 04:59 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-03-2014, 05:03 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-03-2014, 05:07 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by pirkster - 04-03-2014, 05:18 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Senor Fantastico - 04-03-2014, 05:19 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 04-03-2014, 05:20 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 04-03-2014, 05:23 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Mad Dog - 04-03-2014, 05:23 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by pirkster - 04-03-2014, 06:20 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by MalabarJag - 04-03-2014, 07:25 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Mad Dog - 04-03-2014, 09:04 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-04-2014, 05:59 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-04-2014, 06:02 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-04-2014, 08:08 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-04-2014, 08:09 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Etdavis2006 - 04-04-2014, 09:53 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Cleatwood - 04-04-2014, 09:57 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-04-2014, 10:30 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-04-2014, 10:39 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Mad Dog - 04-04-2014, 10:49 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-04-2014, 10:54 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Mad Dog - 04-04-2014, 11:17 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-04-2014, 11:20 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by PAjagsfan - 04-04-2014, 11:33 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by pirkster - 04-04-2014, 11:38 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by PAjagsfan - 04-04-2014, 11:44 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-04-2014, 11:48 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by The Mad Dog - 04-04-2014, 11:50 AM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Cleatwood - 04-04-2014, 12:21 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Oklahomie - 04-04-2014, 12:23 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by MalabarJag - 04-04-2014, 12:27 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-04-2014, 12:31 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Bullseye - 04-04-2014, 12:34 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Cleatwood - 04-04-2014, 12:36 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by knarnn - 04-04-2014, 03:00 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by jtmoney - 04-04-2014, 08:17 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by pirkster - 04-04-2014, 09:03 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-05-2014, 03:58 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-05-2014, 04:09 AM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 04-07-2014, 02:22 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 04-07-2014, 09:17 PM
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 04-07-2014, 09:29 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 04-08-2014, 05:54 AM
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