(09-09-2024, 03:38 PM)Mikey Wrote:

(09-09-2024, 06:43 AM)TTechJag85 Wrote: It’s pretty obvious at this point one thing Trevor is not very good at is escaping the pocket when the initial look isn’t there or if there is any type of edge pressure. 

It’s not always the same cause but there are times where the clock in his head is still too slow when the look / design isn’t there and he doesn’t have a great feel for ‘Hey it’s time for me to go and create something here because the throw I wanted isn’t there.’

Yesterday as one poster already pointed out on that last drive both plays he would have had an opportunity to do so by stepping up and rolling right since Phillips took a really wide rush. But that has never been his game for as long as I have seen him play. He can make some really impressive throws. And sometimes under duress. But the instinct to go and create off script just isn’t there.

That being said I do agree with what posters have been saying and that is our play calling is not tailored to his strengths.

The entire second half we revert to this ultra conservative play calling which featured a first down run every time , usually followed by a short pass screen or another run to try and get into third and manageable… which we were not able to convert.

It’s like we are calling plays on every down based on some football coaching for dummies Manuel that tells us we need to be in 3rd and 5 or less here and then when we get into that situation we run routes exactly at the sticks or if it’s short enough we try to wedge block and drive for a first which we are clearly still
Not capable of doing.

There was little aggression on early downs play action downfield shots… which did have some effect on their pass rush BTW once we figured out we didn’t want to leave the end unblocked after the first play. And there is less creativity with downfield passing play design on early downs.

First and second down defense doesn’t know if it’s run or pass… makes it easier for o line to pass pro.. we use those downs almost exclusively for run or short pass.. then when the defense knows we have to throw on third down we obviously struggle to hold up in protection consistently. 

At some point the play calling needs to make life easier on the players with their deficiencies in mind. Instead we choose to make life harder for ourselves, this is why every drive feels so much harder. We have a QB that excels in a few things and one is pushing the ball down the field. And we refuse to do it for most of the game except on obvious passing situations.

Not like he standing around waiting for plays to develop, it's kinda hard to react when the pressure is practically immediate. The expectation of him responding to the pressure basically would require him to start adding lib from the snap. That ain't how plays are supposed to work.

It was a bad play, thus far not enough to say it defines the line or the QB. I'll wait a week before I start jerkin my knees around

No one is saying he is always standing around. But I can’t think of many times where Trevor has eluded a rusher … scrambled outside the pocket and found a receiver who broke off his route or went streaking down the sideline ALA Mahomes or Allen pretty frequently… AND THATS OK! He doesn’t have to be Mahomes or Allen. Do I still think there are times where his clock is off and he misses reads or holds on to it to long ? Yes but many QBs do.. only the elite ones do it so rarely that it’s noticeable when it actually happens to them.

All in all I think with a better scheme more suited to Lawerence’s and our playmakers abilities we can win a lot of games with Lawerence Because he is a good athlete and has a great arm.  And that is the point of my above post. Do I think he will ever be a top 5 QB probably not. But I will be happy to be proven wrong.

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