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That BAP VS Need Debate

  • Offline Oklahomie
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04-01-2014, 04:28 PM

Quote:Not necessarily.

 

He could also indicate there is something to be said for immediate impact, a balanced team, etc.

 

Another popular argument amongst BAP advocates is Jon Ogden.  The argument goes that TC would have been better off had the Jaguars taken Ogden over Kevin Hardy.

 

I do not malign Ogden in finding that to be a dubious proposition on many levels.  First drafting Ogden destroys the value arguement.  If you drafted Ogden #2 overall in 1996, either he or Boselli (the 2nd overall pick the year before) gets moved to RT.  It's rare to find a RT worth the #2 overall pick, those are typically found later.  It wouldn't be like the instance with Monroe and Joeckel because Monroe was a long time veteran player who Caldwell found to be expendable.  Boselli was a young guy already in place and was a cornerstone.  One of them would have to be moved to RT and you go from getting good value to dramatically overpaying for a RT.  Furthermore, earlier in the year, the team signed Searcy in free agency prior to the draft to play RT.  If you draft Ogden, either Ogden, Boselli, or most likely Searcy moves inside to guard.  You'd have 2 second overall picks (and commensurate salaries) and a high profile free agent (with commensurate salary) playing one premium position.  When you consider history is replete with dominant NFL offensive lines stocked with mid to late round draft picks, such an expenditure on one area of the team is incomprehensible.

 

Continuing on that theme, even if you stocked the OL with all of those guys, there was still a huge need on the defensive side of the ball.  The Jaguars defense in 1995 was an expansion defense, and was among the very bottom.  The LBs at the time were awful.  If the Jaguars were going to have any semblance of a balanced team...if there was to be any hope of the team stopping anyone, there needed to be investment on the defensive side of the ball.
 

If the Jaguars had drafted Ogden they may have been able to win the Superbowl in 1999. Not having Boselli against the titans was a big problem. Ogden could have filled in for him and when Boselli got injured we'd still have a pro bowl left tackle to take over for him.

 

Hardy was another guy that didn't have any impact. Taking role players over play makers is how the Jaguars got to be so bad.
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That BAP VS Need Debate - by Dakota - 03-29-2014, 11:38 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by MalabarJag - 03-30-2014, 12:08 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by FranTheMan-ziel - 03-30-2014, 12:38 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by SuperJville - 03-30-2014, 12:50 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by TJBender - 03-30-2014, 01:15 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Senor Fantastico - 03-30-2014, 03:10 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Mr Sensible - 03-30-2014, 09:13 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by PAjagsfan - 03-30-2014, 11:05 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by Haterade - 03-30-2014, 11:13 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by 1981 - 03-30-2014, 11:59 AM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by rfc17 - 03-30-2014, 12:34 PM
That BAP VS Need Debate - by nate - 03-30-2014, 12:47 PM
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Since 2017, the Jungle is now independent of the team but still run by the same crew. We are here to support and discuss all things Jaguars and all things Duval!