(09-13-2024, 03:12 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:

(09-13-2024, 02:51 PM)mikesez Wrote: Well, here are four things that might have happened.  And if they happened, together, they would be clear evidence that Trump wanted the violent riot to happen. 

1) Did he say he was going to go to the Capitol with his followers?
2) Was he aware in real time that the crowd got violent and the building was breached?
3) Was he aware that the crowd was carrying flags and signs indicating they supported him?
4) Did he wait about three hours before asking his supporters to go home?

It's a little more complicated than that, but not much more.

So it's "might have happened" and "if".  That's your clear evidence?

1.  He said during his speech (paraphrasing) "we will march down to the Capitol peacefully and let our voices be heard".

2.  There is no evidence that I have seen that he was aware of the few democrat plants that were getting violent.

3.  It was pretty obvious from the MSM that I watched that the mostly peaceful protestors were carrying flags and such in support of him.

4.  Did he "wait" or did he not find out that the democrat plants were causing chaos until about three hours had passed?

So you failed to provide any real proof or evidence that President Trump "wanted" the protest to happen.  Your statement is nothing more than your liberal fantasy.

1) he did say peacefully, yes, and at that time he may have thought it would be peaceful.

2 thru 4) the same media that showed the flags and the massive number of people also showed the violence and trespassing. How can you claim you saw one but not the other? If he saw one he saw the other.  Sworn testimony from people who were in the room with him says he was watching Fox News from when he arrived back at the White House to when he finally did the video tweet. He also took phone calls from members of Congress from his party, begging him to tell the rioters to leave.

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(09-13-2024, 04:06 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(09-13-2024, 02:33 PM)mikesez Wrote: I'm not asking about your opinion of me.  I don't care about that.  I was asking you to explain your opinion of who Reagan would support if he were still alive.

I have no opinion on that, but he'd laugh his [BLEEP] off at you trying to crib his notes.

I'm here to discuss Reagan and Trump and you're here to discuss me.

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