(09-14-2024, 12:50 PM)Sneakers Wrote:

(09-14-2024, 09:56 AM)mikesez Wrote: You're both obstinate.
Wit is not knowledge.  Wit is not ability to reason well.  It is the ability to reason quickly, usually to make quick jokes. People can be ignorant and witty at the same time, like Winger.  They can be dense and witty and the same time, like FSG.
Wit was not a skill Plato valued, and he never said anything like the quote.  Plato made long arguments, not quick jokes.

I don't know about Winger and flsprtsgod, but I'm not sure how I'll make it through the rest of the day without Plato's approval.  Are there any support groups to help me with this devastating news? 

For the record, are you claiming to know, not only everything Plato said, but also things he didn't say?  

Philosophical question of the day.........if Plato made a statement, but there wasn't anyone present who later quoted him, did he actually say it?

Well Plato's approval seemed to mean something to you, so it's surprising to find that his disapproval means nothing.  Anyhow, you're not the one who is witty. You're amused by the witty but you're not witty yourself, at least not here.

I know a little about Plato.  Had to read some of his stuff freshman year at UCF.  The cave allegory, the trial of Socrates, the slave who learns math, a few others.  Brevity is the soul of wit and none of those are brief and none of them have one-liners.  

I wasn't sure so I checked wikiquote.   Sure enough the quote doesn't appear in classical writing.  It's a recent invention.  Because Plato has been dead roughly 2300 years, we only know him from his writings and what others wrote about him.  So sure, he said things that weren't quoted, but we can't know what those things are.  If you just make something up today, maybe he said it, but probably he didn't.

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