(09-16-2024, 06:15 PM)carp8dm Wrote:

(09-16-2024, 05:49 PM)TTechJag85 Wrote: You know that is a good point. I’m listening to Jags happy hour and Tony Boselli makes a very good point. O line play in the NFL is at an all time low.. and because of that you are seeing QB play is at an all time low to start 2024… if you look around the league QB and O Line play is very very alarming. 

Boselli mentioned that in our joint practices against the bucs we had one day in pads and then one day in helmets only… says the trenches got no better that second day they might as well have just had chairs out there. And that in general NFL teams don’t prepare themselves for the physicality of the league.

The best coaching staff and teams will solve this problem the fastest and get it together in time to make a deep run…

Don’t think that’s our staff though. And I hope our team hasn’t fallen into here we go again mode whenever something bad happens because then the season is over.

I think we might already be there though.

I listened to Boselli this morning as I was starting work.  From what I could listen to, he still want's to lay blame solely on the O-Line.  But I think your point is correct.  Training camp and pre-season doesn't really prepare a Line for what's to come in the regular season.

But that's just an excuse for the coaching staff, in my opinion.  Yeah, we're not the greatest O-Line.  I checked PFF, and they had us as the 24th O-Line after our loss to the Dolphins.  But man, we still were good moving the ball until the fumble.

It's the job of the HC/OC to scheme up and game plan a way to get the best out of your players.  And trust me...  If you can't get a play off untill the clock is down to 1 second left, and if you continiously run on 1st and 2nd down, that's not helping your mediocre/suspect O-Line.  Especially when you have speed with BTJ, you have reliability with Gabe and Kirk, and you have a RB that can help out too.

To me, it feels like a more passionate HC/OC would be able to make this offense work.  Trevor Lawrence has the talent.  But they are only letting him do his thing in the most dire of circumstances every game.  There's no consistency with this offense, other than failure on 1st and 2nd.  And then we are asking Lawrence to pull a rabbit out his hat.

There's no magic coming from that type of inept coaching.

Certainly feels that way… you can see the coaches in this league who do a great job designing plays for their guys to get the ball.. or schemes that slow down a pass rush or divert the eyes of the second level defenders.. I know a lot of people have already mentioned this but it just feels like we have to work so hard to try and get our top guys the ball. 

And also to that point if you know we are weak in an area then do something about it. We talked all weak about knowing where Myles garrett was, having a plan in place, and understanding that their style of defense is to stop the run on the way to rushing the quarterback and what do we do? We consistently isolate our guys against their top rushers and hope for the best? 

I mean this is all coaching which is the point of the whole thread. If you don’t stand a chance of protecting it then it is not a good play it doesn’t matter how it draws up on paper.

Cover all your bases and protect the Franchise QB at minimum and then if you have a good plan in place and you get beat one on one then you did all you could. 

But when you don’t give your guys a chance to succeed well that’s coaching.

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