(09-23-2024, 11:20 PM)WingerDinger Wrote: 55 million a year to sail footballs over receivers heads for INTs..

I can do that for free..

that one throw was not the difference in this game and you bloody well know it.

Tom brady forgot how many downs you get that one time, I could do that for peanuts, too.

I put a whole lot more of this L on our D getting 0 sacks, 0 turnovers (do we have any this season?). Where was their fight? 5 straight possessions with a TD allowed? No way we should ever expect a QB to have to keep up that pace.

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(09-23-2024, 11:32 PM)enigma Wrote:

(09-23-2024, 11:18 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: But it is not really $55 million a year. If we are going to have this conversation let's do it honestly.

Also EVERY QB require players of certain level to perform to a good standard. Basically every MVP, All-Pro, Super Bowl winning QB has another offensive player who is HoF or All -Pro caliber. And the few that don't are no doubt HoF's.

Every contending Super Bowl winning QB typically has a HoF coach. McVeigh is definitely trending that way. Gary Kubiak, Brian Billick, John Gruden, Mike Holgrem, Bruce Arians, and early career Mike McCarthy are just a notch or few below that level and most with HoF level Qb's.That leaves Doug Pederson and it's pretty clear the 2017 Eagles are the flukiest champion of the past 30 years. who won't but he is much better than any coach the Jags have had in 2 decades. Doug Pedersen is basically the only e

Now if you were expected a future HoF, I don't know what to tell you.

But he can still be damn good, and can still win a SB in the right situation. My point being that ever QB has to be in the right situation to succeed.

Plus if you are looking to but bait, it is more likely the Jags are waiting another 10-15 years to find a QB with this level of potential again.

I'm not harping on the $55 million/yr as a primary point of emphasis, which is crazy to say, but it's more of an addendum in the scope of entirety.

I'm not going to keep reiterating the same points over and over that I have made earlier in both threads but Trevor hasn't gone out there and WON us a game enough - and it's been a long time since he actually has. A couple of games every few seasons just simply won't cut it in the NFL.

Was that INT tonight on the coaches? Trevor has been responsible for 62 total turnovers since 2021, which leads the entire league in that span sadly. Some of them should not fall on him, but there's A LOT that actually do - and is not a good sign.

I'm tired of seeing stat lines like 21/38 178 yards 1 TD and 1 INT so many times... Can we just have a string of games where he grabs the game by the freaking horns and exerts his "greatness" so we don't ever have to be subjected to conversations like these with our starting QB?

... Please?

Unfortunately, when the situation is significant, it seems too often that everything crumbles around him and doesn't give him the chance to win us a game. How often do we have the late-game, near immediate sacks that destroy a comeback attempt? You can dang near set your watch to them. It's systemic, not individual, failure here.

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