(09-24-2024, 01:12 PM)TDOSS Wrote: [quote pid="1644856" dateline="1727195987"]

And Goff then regressed and McVay took stafford on and forged the offense to him. Campbell is now taking Goff back to form . Shanahan has literally made every QB he’s touched look better. A right coach will be able to make Trevor realize his full potential (and before anyone plays gotcha, I’ve stated a million times Trevor isn’t elite and I don’t think he will be. I think he can be in the top half of this league with some borderline elite years with the right support around him. Aka basically what every team has to unless you have Kermit at QB)

That's hilarious. The wizard "QB whisperer" Shanahan moved up on a draft board and selected a bust of a QB.

But yes everything he touches turns into magic.
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You conveniently ignore the fact that almost every year Shanahan has had there, his offense has clicked regardless of who is in at QB. It also helps that they focus on the trenches…

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(09-24-2024, 02:05 PM)cland Wrote:

(09-24-2024, 01:36 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: And he's going to go into his 5th year as a 25 year old QB with a 5th year cap number less than the 5th year on his rookie deal, then the next year he'll be making the cap number of a QB in 2024 while 6 more guys will moved ahead of him on that list. There's nothing wrong with the contract except that the play hasn't been good this year for whatever reason.

I mean that's the whole point. He's making $12M/year MORE than Josh Allen whose deal expires in 2029, you can crunch the numbers as you will, but no matter how you do it Trevor Lawrence is getting overpaid based on his performance to date and he is locked in for the next several years.  If I'm a head coach candidate looking for my first shot (knowing that if I fail, it will likely be my last) I'm taking that fact into account.  I'm not saying that it's impossible to turn Trevor around, just that in comparison to other potential landing spots that it's a big risk.

I understand that but that’s the NfL now. Every QB who gets a new deal is gonna get overpaid. Cleveland and Watson (screw them) reset the market for better or for worse. And already, Trevor’s deal fell down the ladder with Tua and Prescott resetting again…and soon Allen will get a reworked deal I’m sure. Then the next QB….then the next.

If the jags hadn’t extended him, let him walk, and he lit it up elsewhere? You think this forum is toxic now? lol at that scenario.

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(09-24-2024, 01:01 PM)TDOSS Wrote:

(09-24-2024, 12:22 PM)SamusAranX Wrote: Are you serious? Winning is winning except when it’s not…lol. A Super Bowl berth and division titles is winning and it didn’t end there. They traded for stafford, who was considered a mid tier QB and a disappointment considering his draft hype, and he won a title. Great coaches make a difference and clearly Pederson isn’t doing that.

You brought McVay as a stepping stone and you said he had success with Goff. 

His QB in the SB had the following stats:


0 TDs, 1 INT, 59% passer rating. 

Missed a wide open guy in the EZ which couldve been a factor beating NE that SB year run. 

Under Stafford:

89% passer rating. 3 TDs 2 INT and a total of 283 passing yards.

This shows that you need a talented QB to be successful regardless of who the HC is.

You can only mask their weaknesses for so long.

Dude winning records and a SB berth is success, you are literally moving the goal posts every time you spurt words out. Just come out and say that unless they win the Super Bowl, it’s “failure”. By that definition, every QB and Coach in this league not named mahomes these past two seasons were not successful.

And using your own “stellar” criteria, Stafford was not a successful QB in Detroit given he only obtained a few winning years and wild card berth(s). Then McVay turned him into a success.

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