(09-25-2024, 09:59 AM)Caldrac Wrote:

(09-25-2024, 09:50 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: You seem to remember BB's work outside the Brady years differently than I do.

He had four years without Brady. A 7 - 9 record with a washed up Cam Newton at QB, then a 10 - 7 record with a play-off appearance with a rookie QB in Mac Jones. 

Then they fell short in year two with Mac and went 8 - 9 due to bad QB play. Then it went off the rails his final year as they fell to 4 - 13 and a lot of cap spending caught up to them. 

Sounds a little similar to what happens to a lot of great coaches over time. Similar issues happened with Coughlin here in Jacksonville. Similar issues happened with Bill Cowher in Pittsburgh. 

Only time will tell if Kraft got it right by moving on after three years of hovering around .500 and making at least one play-off trip with a really bad down year post Tom Brady. 

This idea though, that, a significant drop off in overall wins and success goes out the window when your prized possession at the most premium position in all of sports leaves shouldn't shock anybody really. Look at any team. It's rare you get away with plugging and playing unless you had a chance to groom your QB's successor, something Bill tried, and was ultimately denied by his owner. 

Tomlin has been scrappy but not the same coach minus Ben Roethlisberger. You can say that for a lot of teams. Falcons are just now getting past the loss of Matt Ryan. The clots have been in QB hell since Manning's retirement and Luck's injuries forcing him to retire. 

Not every team gets lucky like the Packers. Or the Chargers. Some teams don't get to go from Favre to Rodgers to Love. Some teams don't get to go from Brees to Rivers to Herbert. [BLEEP] happens.