(09-25-2024, 07:24 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:

(09-25-2024, 06:43 PM)rpr52121 Wrote: I mean I could be completely misunderstanding it. I clicked the scissors symbol to the left, and it had this pop up:

---

This was the columns from overthecap.com:

Interesting.  The notes below the contract on Spotrac explain that the options are fully guaranteed thru 2026 and mostly guaranteed in 2027.  When you add them all up with the signing bonus you get the dead cap figure.  I understand the pre and post cut/trade of pushing some of the dead cap into the following year, but those numbers you linked don't make sense given the options aren't really options if they are already guaranteed as it states.  It's only counting the signing bonus on the trade calculation.  Maybe the fact they are "options" means the dead cap for them trades with the player?  Or perhaps the dead cap for it doesn't get accelerated into the current year but remains in the option year?  Or perhaps they are treating them as non-guaranteed options and are not properly accounting the full ramifications?  I don't think I've looked at a contract that's set up this way before with so much mostly guaranteed option money.  Either way, if the team that drafted and extended a guy is suddenly looking to and willing to ship him off, that should be a red flag to any other GM and they're not going to be doing us any cap favors in the process as someone is on the hook for those guarantees. They have to be paid and they have to be accounted for against someone's cap (probably ours).  If the receiving team is on the hook, I'd bet they'd be negotiating for us to pay for and eat a lot of that option cap hit to get rid of our "problem".  It's just not happening.  You don't sign a guy to that deal and then 3 games in say "you know what?  Nah."

Trevor is here for at least 3 more seasons.  Trevor should be here for the rest of his career.  The fact that he looks like dog water right now is not an indictment on Trevor.  It's an indictment on Baalke and Pederson.

This thread is beginning to jump the shark.  We're not trading him for lesser QBs.  There isn't a QB out there that I'd rather have that we could possibly get.  There isn't a better QB out there worth trying to chase after.  

If you want to use this thread to complain about the short-comings of Lawrence, cool.  But this sudden shift in the discussion to trading or cutting bait on Trevor Lawrence is beyond the scope of normal human reasoning.  Come on, ya'll.  Let's get back to a normal discussion.  

Is Trevor Lawrence broken at this moment?  Yes.  Can he turn it around?  Not with the current coaching staff and how they are running the offense.  Can this be fixed?  Yes.  But we have to hire an honest to goodness HC/OC that knows how to run a modern NFL offense and has the passion to actually turn this thing around.

We're not getting rid of Lawrence.  Let's talk about things that are realistic.

---