(09-30-2024, 07:35 PM)OzJohnnie Wrote:

(09-30-2024, 12:32 AM)SamusAranX Wrote: *feeble-minded

Reality is, he’s not the biggest problem on this team, and you contradict yourself in your own posts. 

Oh Garrard has a higher career rating! (of one point, off a much larger sample size by the way). So that’s gospel. But wait, Bortles has a lower career rating. So never mind, let’s not use that, I just still would “rather” have Bortles (suddenly an opinion not a fact). There’s statistics where Trevor is better than Garrard/ Bortles that I could throw out there.

Then you defend Bortles using the “look at his staff” but then aren’t given Trevor the same mulligan now when it’s clear he’s dealing with the same problem; a staff that has its head buried in the sand and won’t adjust this offense to what Trevor’s strengths are. There is also the urban year. Which other teams personnel have said really screwed up his career trajectory. 

He has no doubt regressed and I called him out today, and times past as well so I’m not a blind homer. I also never viewed him as an elite and think a more measured outlook was needed. Our difference of opinion lies in that I think Trevor can be, and most likely will be, a good starting QB in this league (most likely not with us). There’s only ONE, maybe two QBs in this league who truly transcend needing the right system and support in place to win consistently. Mahomes, possibly burrow. I can’t remember who said it, but often times it’s not just the QB you draft that matters, it’s where they go to as well. A prime example of this is Mayfield. Cleveland just churns QBs in and out. Mayfield wasn’t mahomes, got ran out, and is thriving in Tampa. The Jets. Did the same to Darnold. The Bears are doing it to Williams, and just did it to Fields. I mean, cmon man, you can’t tell me if Trevor was with Andy Reid, Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay he wouldn’t be doing a lot better. If you do, I don’t think I can take your perspective as on of good faith. 

I legit am to the point where I think Jax is a QB shredder just like those franchises. We’re never going to draft a successful QB, not just because of evaluation, but because of our dysfunctional way of operating. Doesn’t matter how talented they are as a prospect. So in six years, God help us, we’ll be having this same conversation about the next poor sap we screwed the pooch on.

When your goal is to dunk on someone and show how smart you are, you can't start with grammar ignorance.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/feebleminded

TL blows chunks.  Deadset below average.  The issues he had on day one as a rookie, he still has.  And now he's a $255 million albatross around Khan's neck.  You don't have to wear him, however.  You can chose to cut him lose emotionally.

The second sentence I bolded is grammatically incorrect.  What you wrote there is a sentence fragment and is frowned upon. 

Those in glass houses should not throw any stones.  

Besides, who cares about grammar?  We're all just talking football.  I agree that pejoratives and other logic fallacies should not be part of the discourse.  But this grammar enforcement or pedantic arguments are tiresome.  It drags down the discussion and results in these types of unhelpful back and forth drivel.

(And don't think I'm oblivious to the irony of pointing this out.  In fact, I recognize I'm perpetuating it.  I just wanted to call you out for your arrogance.  Just make your argument.  Call out the logic fallacies when you see them.  But this back and forth about grammar or minutia of detail hurts the overall discussion, on both sides of the debate)

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