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Players to build around

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(10-02-2024, 05:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:
(10-02-2024, 11:58 AM)cland Wrote: I think there's a lot of truth in this statement.  Mainly because there's a lack of core identity on the team.  If you look at the Ravens for example, you know that when you play them you're going up against a defense that will take your head off.  They aren't a speed team, they don't have a tricky playbook, but they draft/sign offensive and defensive players that will let you know that you played them while you're sitting in the ice bath the next day.  Their offense is going to pound your defense until it wears down (I think Derrick Henry was a great signing for them) then Lamar will take advantage of your tiredness.  To me this is the type of team you don't want to see later on in the season when most of your players will be dinged up.

I think that if the Jags had selected Aiden Hutchinson across from JHA that their defensive ends could have become the start of a defensive identity, limiting the opposing QBs time and consistently sealing the edge, and the more I've seen Maason play I think next year he will be a great addition to the IDL.  The Jags have two solid running backs, but they haven't invested (properly) in the Oline that could have created holes for them to wear down a defense.  Resigning Scherff and not upgrading Cleveland was a huge mistake if you want to be a run-first team.

On another note, and here's where I'll catch some flak.  If I look at Doug Pederson's original west-coast offense it is meant to have quick agile (generally smaller) WRs to dominate the short/middle/edge section of the field. The routes should have screens and (legal) pick/rub plays to pick up 5-10 yards per pass.  The west-coast offense should value a QB's accuracy much more than deep ball power, and Trevor is not a west-coast offense QB.  If I look at the new big-bodied WRs that were brought in, it looks like Pederson was trying to adapt to a vertical style of offense that better suits TLaw.  If you watch the offensive passing plays, you'll see that the majority of the routes are deep down the field.  The problem is that you have to have OLmen that can holdup for a 5-step (or 7-step) drop...

No there isn't 

That's total garbage 

You don't build around [BLEEP] superstars - LOL -  ridiculous

You build around foundational pieces. Above average players that can anchor positional groups. Hopefully starting in the damn trenches - which is where this team [BLEEP] the proverbial bed. 
It's amazing if you can have at least one superstar on each side of the ball but that isn't how you build a [BLEEP] team. The timing of finding those guys is too finite and undetermined.

Pederson did what you described in the last paragraph here for two years. This year he tried to go more vertical with play action ramped up mare than double last year's rate  + lots of drops from under center and it has bitten him in the [BLEEP] more than it has paid off thus far.

Ahh you're right, the Chiefs keep going to the Superbowl because Mahomes and Kelce are both "above average players."
NYC4jags Wrote:
Can we leave the personal insults behind for a while and get back to some semblance of topic, gents?
Please, and thank you.


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Players to build around - by jaglou53 - 10-01-2024, 02:14 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flsprtsgod - 10-01-2024, 03:48 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Caldrac - 10-01-2024, 04:01 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flsprtsgod - 10-01-2024, 04:10 PM
RE: Players to build around - by The_Franchise_QB - 10-01-2024, 04:12 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Caldrac - 10-01-2024, 04:16 PM
RE: Players to build around - by The_Franchise_QB - 10-01-2024, 04:19 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Caldrac - 10-01-2024, 04:29 PM
RE: Players to build around - by JagFanatic24 - 10-04-2024, 08:10 PM
RE: Players to build around - by The_Franchise_QB - 10-04-2024, 09:01 PM
RE: Players to build around - by JagFanatic24 - 10-05-2024, 04:26 AM
RE: Players to build around - by HURRICANE!!! - 10-01-2024, 04:53 PM
RE: Players to build around - by cland - 10-02-2024, 11:58 AM
RE: Players to build around - by NYC4jags - 10-02-2024, 05:50 PM
RE: Players to build around - by cland - 10-02-2024, 07:38 PM
RE: Players to build around - by NYC4jags - 10-02-2024, 07:46 PM
RE: Players to build around - by cland - 10-02-2024, 10:47 PM
RE: Players to build around - by NYC4jags - 10-02-2024, 10:54 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flgatorsandjags - 10-01-2024, 04:21 PM
RE: Players to build around - by jaglou53 - 10-01-2024, 10:22 PM
RE: Players to build around - by JagFanatic24 - 10-04-2024, 08:28 PM
RE: Players to build around - by JagFanatic24 - 10-01-2024, 04:22 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flsprtsgod - 10-01-2024, 04:32 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Caldrac - 10-01-2024, 04:33 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Upatnoon - 10-13-2024, 04:14 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Mikey - 10-14-2024, 07:54 AM
RE: Players to build around - by flgatorsandjags - 10-01-2024, 04:32 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flsprtsgod - 10-01-2024, 04:35 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flgatorsandjags - 10-01-2024, 04:40 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Mikey - 10-01-2024, 04:56 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flgatorsandjags - 10-01-2024, 04:57 PM
RE: Players to build around - by NYC4jags - 10-01-2024, 05:22 PM
RE: Players to build around - by jaglou53 - 10-01-2024, 10:15 PM
RE: Players to build around - by NYC4jags - 10-01-2024, 10:20 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Jagulars - 10-01-2024, 10:49 PM
RE: Players to build around - by JagsFanSince95 - 10-01-2024, 11:02 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Eric1 - 10-02-2024, 04:11 AM
RE: Players to build around - by jaglou53 - 10-02-2024, 04:48 AM
RE: Players to build around - by NYC4jags - 10-02-2024, 09:42 AM
RE: Players to build around - by Caldrac - 10-02-2024, 09:48 AM
RE: Players to build around - by carp8dm - 10-02-2024, 08:03 PM
RE: Players to build around - by carp8dm - 10-02-2024, 11:43 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Caldrac - 10-03-2024, 10:06 AM
RE: Players to build around - by Mikey - 10-03-2024, 11:31 AM
RE: Players to build around - by carp8dm - 10-03-2024, 07:32 PM
RE: Players to build around - by mikesez - 10-04-2024, 06:14 PM
RE: Players to build around - by cland - 10-03-2024, 12:16 AM
RE: Players to build around - by TDOSS - 10-03-2024, 12:22 AM
RE: Players to build around - by NYC4jags - 10-03-2024, 09:54 AM
RE: Players to build around - by cland - 10-04-2024, 11:50 PM
RE: Players to build around - by jagsfan06 - 10-05-2024, 10:50 AM
RE: Players to build around - by JagFanatic24 - 10-06-2024, 02:49 AM
RE: Players to build around - by SeldomRite - 10-13-2024, 01:18 PM
RE: Players to build around - by carp8dm - 10-13-2024, 03:35 PM
copycat - by copycat - 10-13-2024, 03:56 PM
RE: copycat - by carp8dm - 10-13-2024, 04:00 PM
copycat - by copycat - 10-13-2024, 04:06 PM
RE: copycat - by Cleatwood - 10-13-2024, 04:06 PM
copycat - by copycat - 10-13-2024, 04:17 PM
RE: copycat - by Jag149 - 10-20-2024, 03:06 PM
RE: copycat - by Mikey - 10-14-2024, 07:48 AM
RE: copycat - by flsprtsgod - 10-14-2024, 08:53 AM
RE: Players to build around - by homebiscuit - 10-13-2024, 04:01 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Caldrac - 10-13-2024, 04:05 PM
RE: Players to build around - by carp8dm - 10-13-2024, 04:06 PM
RE: Players to build around - by JagFan81 - 10-13-2024, 04:26 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flsprtsgod - 10-13-2024, 04:34 PM
RE: Players to build around - by JagFan81 - 10-13-2024, 06:25 PM
RE: Players to build around - by rpr52121 - 10-13-2024, 06:31 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Newton - 10-20-2024, 12:33 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flsprtsgod - 10-20-2024, 12:40 PM
RE: Players to build around - by homebiscuit - 10-20-2024, 12:43 PM
RE: Players to build around - by carp8dm - 10-20-2024, 12:51 PM
RE: Players to build around - by navyjagfan - 10-20-2024, 12:53 PM
RE: Players to build around - by homebiscuit - 10-20-2024, 12:59 PM
RE: Players to build around - by NYC4jags - 10-20-2024, 01:12 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Newton - 10-20-2024, 01:19 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Jaguar Warrior - 10-20-2024, 02:18 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Jag88 - 10-20-2024, 02:26 PM
RE: Players to build around - by jaglou53 - 10-20-2024, 02:43 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Jag149 - 10-20-2024, 02:51 PM
RE: Players to build around - by flgatorsandjags - 10-20-2024, 02:52 PM
RE: Players to build around - by jaglou53 - 10-20-2024, 05:20 PM
RE: Players to build around - by Jag88 - 10-20-2024, 02:59 PM



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