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83Austin83 · 10-07-2024, 03:56 AM

(10-07-2024, 12:58 AM)Jag149 Wrote:
(10-06-2024, 11:44 PM)83Austin83 Wrote: Not in season related but something that we all know is coming up for the Jaguars. Obviously with the upcoming construction, the Jaguars are playing their 2027 schedule outside of Jacksonville. I know the Jags were considering the Daytona International Speedway but that fell apart. And there are no other options in Jacksonville for the Jags to use.

Tampa and Miami would be out for obvious reasons. Savannah wouldn't have the facilities and Tallahassee is too isolated. That essentially leaves the Jags with two options, Gainesville at The Swamp and Orlando at Camping World Stadium.

Orlando of course is the only major city in Florida without an NFL team. And as it stands now, Orlando will probably never get an NFL team. The Jags, Bucs and Dolphins would all fight against it and do everything possible to never allow it. This will probably be the only time Orlando has any leverage against the Jags and the NFL. If I'm Orlando and the Camping World Stadium authorities, I only allow the Jags to play the 2027 season in Orlando on the following conditions:

1) The Jags have to split the cost with Orlando (or fund it entirely themselves) for any required upgrades to Camping World Stadium..
2) The Jags, after the 2027 season, have to commit to play one home game in Orlando every year for 20 years. Now that the NFL has a 17 game format, in years where the Jags have 8 home games, the Orlando game would be a preseason game. In years where the Jags have 9 home games, those would be years where the Jags play a regular season game in Orlando.

So again essentially Orlando would get 1 game for 20 years, with it rotating each year between a preseason game and a home game. I think it's a fair condition, and if the Jags don't like it then as an Orlando resident I'm fine with the city telling the Jags to pound sand and they can play the 2027 season in Gainesville. Gainesville has no leverage against the Jags, but I definitely think Orlando does now that the Daytona International Speedway idea is dead.

What do you all think? Would you all be willing to play either one regular season game or one preseason game every year in Orlando for twenty years as compensation for being allowed to play the 2027 season in Orlando? Do you think it would help actually build up a fan base for the Jags in Orlando (something the Jags have tried for years but have never succeeded in actually doing)?

First, if the cost to the jags are what you said it will be a hard no. Our tax dollars upgrading their stadium? That would cost Deegan her job as mayor. What would happen is the money spent upgrading UNF or another facility here (soccer) will come into play. The money would then be the same and leave an upgraded facility in Jacksonville after everything is said and done. The Chargers played in a 25k seat stadium for a period while theirs was being built. The upgrades Camping world needs is in excess of 60million about what UF is spending now.

Orlando has no leverage at all. A home game there? LOL No, no, no ... Only peeps that believe that must live in Orlando. I would counsel them to be very careful playing hard ball with a guy like Kahn.

No facility UNF has comes even close to the same situation the Chargers were in. The LA Galaxy already had a professional level stadium. Yes it was on the smaller side but it only needed minor upgrades. Any facility at UNF would need at least 100-200 million in upgrades and even at that you are talking about 100 million in upgrades to have far smaller revenue (like you said, maybe around 20-25,000 people) which means far less revenue as well.

With your mentality good luck ever having a fan base south of St. Augustine because the Jags won't.

Kahn has no leverage with Orlando at all. What's Kahn going to do, strip Orlando of the Pro Bowl that it occasionally hosts? No one cares about the Pro Bowl anyway. Kahn would have no leverage and remember that Kahn would still move the Jags to London in a second if he could. Don't think that's completely off the table long term because I'm sure it isn't.

If I was the city of Orlando, if Kahn tries to play hardball then I involve the local CBS affiliate (WKMG 6) and I lobby the NFL hard to remove the Jags from secondary market status in Orlando. It's well known that no one in Orlando like the Jags. There are far more Dolphins and Bucs fans in Orlando than Jags fans and either Orlando should get the Dolphins or Orlando should get the CBS national game on the week, but definitely not the Jags. My proposal might be the one way for the Jags to actually expand their fan base in Central Florida, since the Jags would be the first Florida team to actually try to actively engaged that community.

The Jags losing a potential fan base as well as market share would definitely hurt the Jags organization and Kahn. Even with 1 game in Orlando you would still have 8 games in Jacksonville. Never mind actually potentially grow the fan base (more in Orlando might support the Jags if a home game is there) and lessen the chances of the Jags ever moving. And Kahn isn't going to pay an extra 100-200 million in stadium renovations just to keep that money in Jacksonville.