(10-07-2024, 03:56 AM)83Austin83 Wrote:

(10-07-2024, 12:58 AM)Jag149 Wrote: First, if the cost to the jags are what you said it will be a hard no. Our tax dollars upgrading their stadium? That would cost Deegan her job as mayor. What would happen is the money spent upgrading UNF or another facility here (soccer) will come into play. The money would then be the same and leave an upgraded facility in Jacksonville after everything is said and done. The Chargers played in a 25k seat stadium for a period while theirs was being built. The upgrades Camping world needs is in excess of 60million about what UF is spending now.

 Orlando has no leverage at all.  A home game there? LOL  No, no, no ... Only peeps that believe that must live in Orlando. I would counsel them to be very careful playing hard ball with a guy like Kahn.

No facility UNF has comes even close to the same situation the Chargers were in. The LA Galaxy already had a professional level stadium. Yes it was on the smaller side but it only needed minor upgrades. Any facility at UNF would need at least 100-200 million in upgrades and even at that you are talking about 100 million in upgrades to have far smaller revenue (like you said, maybe around 20-25,000 people) which means far less revenue as well.

With your mentality good luck ever having a fan base south of St. Augustine because the Jags won't. 

Kahn has no leverage with Orlando at all. What's Kahn going to do, strip Orlando of the Pro Bowl that it occasionally hosts? No one cares about the Pro Bowl anyway. Kahn would have no leverage and remember that Kahn would still move the Jags to London in a second if he could. Don't think that's completely off the table long term because I'm sure it isn't.

If I was the city of Orlando, if Kahn tries to play hardball then I involve the local CBS affiliate (WKMG 6) and I lobby the NFL hard to remove the Jags from secondary market status in Orlando. It's well known that no one in Orlando like the Jags. There are far more Dolphins and Bucs fans in Orlando than Jags fans and either Orlando should get the Dolphins or Orlando should get the CBS national game on the week, but definitely not the Jags. My proposal might be the one way for the Jags to actually expand their fan base in Central Florida, since the Jags would be the first Florida team to actually try to actively engaged that community.

The Jags losing a potential fan base as well as market share would definitely hurt the Jags organization and Kahn. Even with 1 game in Orlando you would still have 8 games in Jacksonville. Never mind actually potentially grow the fan base (more in Orlando might support the Jags if a home game is there) and lessen the chances of the Jags ever moving. And Kahn isn't going to pay an extra 100-200 million in stadium renovations just to keep that money in Jacksonville.

Orlando is not getting a game every year. The contract between the Jags and the City says no, so that an irrational demand. Besides your ignorance is showing about how many home games we play here.   Also WKMG 6 is owned by Graham Media Group. (GHC stock ticker, I actual own a bit)  This in turn is owned by Graham Holdings. The largest share holder  is IShares, which in turn is owned by Blackrock. Now to accomplish the poop you just said all you have to do is to get Larry Fink in New York to go along with you. Since they are about to buy a portion of an NFL team I am sure he would love to get into a fight with the NFL.  You have these dreams of grandeur often or is this just a one time thing?

ps Kahn would not play hard ball he would just say no, along with all the other owners.

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