(10-07-2024, 09:09 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Khan doesn't need to win over the Orlando market. 

And the city or O has no leverage in the opportunity to have the Jaguars bring them 50-60K visitors six times in a few months time. They have the freedom to negotiate a fair deal in stadium improvement and prep. That's about it. 

It would be a welcome boon of tourist dollars spent in the local economy. No city wants to scare that away by overstepping in the fashion you describe.

You do realize that Orlando is the third most popular U.S. city for tourism behind NYC and Vegas right? Maybe tied with Miami for third (even though the Orlando International Airport is now the busiest airport in Florida, bypassing Miami International Airport several years ago). Orlando doesn't need the exposure. Orlando is far more known outside of Florida than Jacksonville, that is for sure.

Out of those 50-60k visitors for probably seven regular season games (assuming one regular season game in London as usual for the Jags), how many will just be Jags fans from Jacksonville and North Florida that will drive in the day of the game, tailgate for a few hours, go to the game and then immediately leave? Those are fans that will spend little to no money in the local economy and actually are a net drain on the local economy due having to staff the stadium and having police/emergency personnel for medical emergencies, traffic and security. 

It's the same reason that most of the time, the major bowl games in Orlando do not want the Gators or Seminoles and prefer out of state teams. Gator or Seminole fans drive in the day of the game, park, go to the game, and then leave. Outside of maybe filling up the gas tank getting out of town and paying for parking, they offer next to no economic benefit for the city. 

But please, tell me how it will be an economic boom for the city when most people attending will be Jags fans from Jacksonville and North Florida. Fans that won't be staying in Orlando hotels, that won't be going to Orlando restaurants and bars and would probably do nothing else than maybe go to the theme parks if they come a day early. 

Orlando can get far more lucrative events. You all way overvalue what you are. The Jags are one of the smallest and worst organizations in the NFL. You all are here acting like you're the Chiefs, Cowboys, Steelers or Packers. If you were one of those teams, or even a far amount of other NFL teams, then your argument would hold water. Orlando is essentially doing the Jags a huge favor if they allow the Jags to play the 2027 season in Jacksonville and get nothing out of it other than some stadium improvements. The Jags would be getting a steal of a deal over Orlando which I don't want to see happen.

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(10-07-2024, 09:47 PM)Jag149 Wrote: So, in Summary,
The city is paying 55% of the renovation cost and the Jags agree to play their home games here. (except for one in London) The Jags could play one additional home game every four years overseas, but only if the NFL dictates and only during seasons in which the Jaguars have nine home games.
That is the contract.

You implied going to Orlando would ensure they would not relocate. We have a non relocation clause so no value to that argument.

You threatened to get us off channel 6.  That channel is not locally controlled and indirectly by Blackrock (Larry Fink)  Who is begging to invest 10% in a team. Go for it guy is all I can say.

I checked with Kahn, he is ok if you do not like him.

I ask again do you normally have these visions of grandeur or is this a one time thing?

You mean the same channel 6 that has had to routinely in the past apologize to its viewers for showing a Jags game over a more competitive game? A channel 6 that loses money when they have to show the Jags because people switch to another game or just another channel in general. Yes trying to force feed the Jags in Orlando has caused a fair amount of bitterness towards the Jags in Orlando. Great way not to expand your fanbase between Jacksonville and far North Florida

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