(10-15-2024, 12:16 PM)cland Wrote:

(10-15-2024, 10:23 AM)PV=nRT Wrote: I was told Allen is able to compensate and elevate those around him.  Lol.  It seems we hold TLaw to a different standard than everybody else.

Really, because you don't seem to have any standard for Trevor.  You just just compared him to Mahomes because their stat line is similar this year, yet you reject the Daniel Jones comparison despite the fact that their stats have been similar since Trevor has been in the league.  Mahomes team is 5-0, he's been to 4 Super Bowls--winning 3, with 3 SB MVPs--yet we're talking about how it's because his defense is so great that the Chiefs are successful. (He's also 2nd in the already posted "passes dropped" category, so there's that.) Trevor's team is 1-10, but [list the same repetitive excuses], bypassing any possible criticism that Lawrence isn't a perfect QB.  

And going back to the 1 game analysis again, with Josh Allen is nonsense...  If anyone should respect Allen's play I think it would be the Jaguars.  

PS. You and your other fanboys used to wait until Trevor had a good game before firing up the "Trevor is the best QB in the league, but..." rhetoric, now it just takes a game where he was just 'okay' in a 35-16 loss against a rookie QB that put up better numbers.

There's no silver bullet stat or stats in football.  This isn't baseball where stats by themselves can tell you an awful lot.  I know that causes many consternation that they can't point to one line or a few lines on the stat sheet and say "see, I told you he's good (or bad)."  It's looking at the complete picture as well as using your eyes and accounting for the other 10 guys on offense which can affect the play as well as the 11 guys on defense which can affect the play.  Good/great QBs have bad games.  Josh Allen has had his share.  He's still one of the better QBs in the league right now though, no question.  Mahomes is the consensus best QB in the league right now and I would say his play the past year and a half is not to the same level as it was earlier in his career.  What are the reasons for that?  The lack of talent in the WR room certainly contributes as does the aging of Travis Kelce.

The Daniel Jones comparison is one of the most disingenuous and/or incompetent comparisons I've ever seen.  It does not show trajectory which should be what you are looking for when comparing 3 or 4 seasons or more when you are trying to set expectations of what's to follow.  You can't have watched both play recently and come to the conclusion that they are anywhere close to the same guy and an examination of more recent stats also shows this unless you are emotionally invested in Trevor's failure which is probably the case for a fan of a division rival.  

At any rate, your post comes off awfully irritated for a somewhat disinterested 3rd party observer.  What's really eating you?  It really shouldn't be Jaguars fans discussing and defending Trevor Lawrence on a Jaguars message board.

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