(10-28-2024, 12:00 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(10-28-2024, 11:45 AM)cland Wrote: Trevor leads the league in turnovers since he's been in the league.  The fact that he's improved that in a 2-6 performance doesn't erase the fact that he still holds that record.  The fact that he spotted the Packers 14 points via turnovers is what lost yesterdays game.  Criticizing that aspect of his game isn't "holding Trevor to a standard no other QB in this league is held to", it's pointing out that he has to be more secure with the ball... Just like his head coach pointed out in the offseason.

I'll say it again, Trevor's contract isn't about him being overpaid (though I think there's an argument there) but if you believe that a new GM and Head Coach are needed, it adds a wrench in the hiring process.  Instead of offering a GM and a HC with a blank slate, you have to hire them with the understanding that the QB position (and the newly extended DE/CB) are already locked in for multiple years (4 years according to you post).  For example, if you really want Ben Johnson as a HC, he now has to agree that he can turn the team around with Trevor, as opposed to finding his own QB that may fit his system better.  It's not impossible that he'll agree, but it is an extra hurdle.

I'd bet you $10K right now that 9 out of 10 offensive HC candidates in the carousel this offseason would jump out of their [BLEEP] shoes for the chance to build an offense around Trevor Lawrence. 

BTW - Trevor's final drive for a TD yesterday alone outperformed Stroud's entire damn game against the packers defense. Maybe turn your ire back inside your own glass house there. 

And you harping on a career stat that has altered radically for the better this year just makes you look desperate to find fault. 
"BuT hE THrEw alL tHosE PicKs BeFoRe!! WhaaaaAa!"

Yesterday's turnovers consisted of a rookie receiver not curling on a curl route and a defender poking out the ball when TL was scrambling away from pressure given up by his linemen. I don't excuse either one of them - but the context is worthy of knowledge if you are going to take ONE GAME from this season to resurrect an otherwise dead argument. 

Give me a break. 

You want to pick apart the film in his 3 "bad" games from this season and build an intelligent argument why he should be better than that in year 3 of a Pederson offense?  I'd listen to that. But this argument is weak as hell.

I was gonna reply to him as well.  I'll just bold what you said, because it's dead on correct.

When Pederson is (hopefully) fired, the Jaguars will be the most enticing job opening for both a HC and a GM.  And that is because of Lawrence.  Of the teams that are going to potentially fire thier HC's, Trevor Lawrence is head and shoulders the best QB.  On top of that, the college QBs that will make up the 2025 draft class don't look that impressive.  This is a down year for drafting a college QB, many believe.  

Unless the Bengals fire their Taylor and/or the Bears fire Eberfluse (or however you spell his name), Lawrence is the best QB out there for a HC to come and work with.

McCarthy is gonna be fired in Dallas, but there's no young up and coming OC that would want to start their Head Coaching career under the thumb of Jerry Jones.  Plus, I think Lawrence has way more upside that Dak.  So besides Chicago and Cincy, what other potential job opening has a QB that has so much talent and potential than Lawrence?  

We're not in a rebuild, either.  We are in a situation where we make a few changes, specifically on D, and this team is a playoff contender.  And that's mainly because of the offense and out QB, specifically.

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