(10-28-2024, 05:23 PM)carp8dm Wrote:

(10-28-2024, 04:15 PM)jagibelieve Wrote: I agree with you somewhat.  I think Pederson is probably fired during the bye week since I don't see any wins between now and then.  It's not always "fair" or "the right thing to do" in my opinion, but the Captain of the ship is always the one that has the ultimate responsibility and is always the one held most accountable.

I still think that it's more of a "player problem" rather than coaching, and it's not lack of talent.  I think that players will listen and respond better to their peers over the coaches.  When I say that players need to "call each other out" or hold each other accountable, it doesn't need to be a public thing.  I'm not sure how to motivate players to do it, and I don't think that the coaches know either.

Again when/if Pederson if fired during the bye week, who steps in as the interim of long term solution?

Back to the topic of this thread, I kind of hope that the Jaguars can keep it somewhat close and not lose in a huge blowout.  That being said I see a 42-10 type of game coming up that won't be pleasant.

If I may...

So if it's a player problem, but it's not the lack of talent, then what exactly is the player problem you speak of?  

I think many of us forget that these are not true "professionals" like in the real world.  These are kids playing a game.  They are not highly educated, highly trained, business professionals.  Hell, on the 53 man squad of these Jaguars, there's only 6 dudes 30 years old or older.  And the oldest dudes are only 32.

Most these kids are in their early to mid 20s.  20 year old kids aren't mature professionals.  Especially since they play a game for a living and many of them have been pretty much sheltered from everything most of their lives based on their talents as football players.

Coaches are absolutely important in focusing, motivating, and training these kids to be the best they can be.  Coaches at this level make the difference between 2-6 with your season over and 4-4 and still in the playoff hunt.  In my opinion, of course.

This isn't hard.

Players make mistakes and fail to execute assignments - and they do these things despite coaches drilling them on all of them during camp and practices.

Too much of that crap and you end up right about where we are. 

Combine that with talent gaps in a few key places and coaches that can't find ways to get better performance from the guys screwing up and you're exactly where we are.

We could go on and on trying to pin blame on different players or coaches - but at this point it is a complete organizational failure. They have a mountain of losses dating back to week 11 or 12 of last year from this.

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