(10-28-2024, 05:31 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(10-28-2024, 05:23 PM)carp8dm Wrote: If I may...

So if it's a player problem, but it's not the lack of talent, then what exactly is the player problem you speak of?  

I think many of us forget that these are not true "professionals" like in the real world.  These are kids playing a game.  They are not highly educated, highly trained, business professionals.  Hell, on the 53 man squad of these Jaguars, there's only 6 dudes 30 years old or older.  And the oldest dudes are only 32.

Most these kids are in their early to mid 20s.  20 year old kids aren't mature professionals.  Especially since they play a game for a living and many of them have been pretty much sheltered from everything most of their lives based on their talents as football players.

Coaches are absolutely important in focusing, motivating, and training these kids to be the best they can be.  Coaches at this level make the difference between 2-6 with your season over and 4-4 and still in the playoff hunt.  In my opinion, of course.

This isn't hard.

Players make mistakes and fail to execute assignments - and they do these things despite coaches drilling them on all of them during camp and practices.

Too much of that crap and you end up right about where we are. 

Combine that with talent gaps in a few key places and coaches that can't find ways to get better performance from the guys screwing up and you're exactly where we are.

We could go on and on trying to pin blame on different players or coaches - but at this point it is a complete organizational failure. They have a mountain of losses dating back to week 11 or 12 of last year from this.

This is the part we'll probably always fundamentally disagree with each other from here to eternity.  

I think these are kids that need the proper coaching to ensure they are executing.  While it's true that the players are ultimately the ones that need to execute on the field, I will continue to think that the way certain coaches develop, train, motivate, and set accountability and cultural standards is the difference between teams that are successful consistently, and teams like ours.

I agree with one thing you did say.  This is a complete organizational failure.  I've expressed my concerns since last year.  Baalke is definitely a problem, that's also become clear since last year.  We're just watching a meltdown happen in slow motion.  It's just all breaking down now that it's become pretty obvious.

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