(10-29-2024, 10:42 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:

(10-29-2024, 09:01 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: https://twitter.com/JuMosq/status/1851015271294947823

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I know you don't like looking at numbers because you said it's for nerds but try this one out. Which one do you think shares more of the blame? The dead last defense or middle of the road offense?

And Trevor doesn't need top 5 anything. How about an average defense? Considering the amount of money and resources poured into the defense, for them to be dead last is the biggest failure of the season by far.

As I've stated many times, offenses, defenses and special teams don't play in a vacuum.  What happens in one phase affects the other.  It's called complimentary football, coaches reference it a lot and it's usually very important in determining the outcome of games.  The defense and special teams showed up early and provided opportunities for the offense that were not capitalized on.  3rd and 3 becomes 3rd and 8 because of a Gabe Davis false start ([BLEEP] Gabe Davis man) and then on 3rd and 8 we see an incompletion to BTJ and are forced to punt from the Green Bay 48. 

When you punt 70 yards out of bounds to the 2 yard line and your defense holds forcing a return punt to mid field, YOU. HAVE. TO. SCORE. on that opportunity with that field position even if it's just a field goal and we didn't.  

Green Bay then flips the field with a long drive.  Fortunately, the defense makes a play near the goal line for the interception and then we give it right back because 2 receivers were in the same spot at almost the same time and Trevor throws it right to the defender who was allowed to stay put.  I don't think the guys designing the plays are dumb and I don't think they designed a play to have the two receivers in the same spot as they were, so someone was almost certainly out of position for one reason or another.  I look forward to someone looking at the all 22 on this one and determining whether Kirk ran a bad route or if BTJ was slowed down by a defender at some point.

To your point, the defense has clearly been worse than the offense more often than not especially in recent weeks, but everybody owns this.  It's not all one side's fault as you say.  The blame pie doesn't have to be divided up evenly, but everyone gets a slice.  I think this team has the talent to win these games.  We could easily now be 5 and 3 or 6 and 2 if a few plays turn out differently, but I don't mind saying that had we passed on Gabe Davis in free agency and signed someone else or just rolled with the guys we already had on the roster I think with that alone we'd probably have 1 or 2 extra wins.  Dude has been that bad in my mind with the penalties and the drive killing drops and I was one that believed he was a smart, value target to go after at the end of last year and we are now unfortunately stuck with him at least thru next year.  Dude stinks out loud.

I'm not saying the offense is without their faults. Trevor has missed some throws, the WRs drop too many passes and the OL is hit or miss.

But this season is about how absolutely atrocious the defense has been. That's not an exaggeration. They have been so unbelievably bad that if Trevor and the offense don't score 30, they're likely to lose. They have forced 2 turnovers all season. ALL SEASON. You're focusing on this past week but forgot to mention the defense letting the Packers march down the field with Willis after the Jags take the lead? That would be a perfect time to step up and give the offense the ball back to extend the lead. 

Trevor has his faults. No one is denying that. But with all the money dished out and draft picks used on the defense.... for them to be dead last? That's absurd. 

I do agree that everyone has a hand in this mess but the constant discourse every week about if Trevor is good or bad is exhausting. He's good. Point blank. If the Jags said they are open to trading Lawrence, coaches like McVay, Shannahan, KOC etc would be sending 3-4 1st rounders for him. He has been put in one of the most dysfunctional organizations in sports and yet somehow, keeps being a pro. His GM and HC hate each other. They've hated each other since day 1 but Pederson likely put up with Baalke because no one else wanted Pederson. He had the worst HC in history his rookie season. 

This organization has failed Trevor more than anything. He hasn't lived up to his generational tag that was billed but that's on the team.

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