(10-29-2024, 09:05 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote:

(10-29-2024, 08:56 AM)Caldrac Wrote: This is easy. 

1. Mahomes has the hardware, moments and pedigree to exempt from said mistakes from time to time. Mahomes has shown the ability to make up for his mistakes. His career speaks for itself. Despite all of his poor play this year and his numbers being down? They're still undefeated and he's doing just enough at the right times in their games to ensure they win. 

2. Lawrence does not have any of the above, in addition to that, he knows our defense is trash. He needs to be that much more aware and careful while handling the football that deep in his own territory. We don't have Chris Jones on our defense. We don't have Steve Spaggs as our Defensive Coordinator neither. 

Any other lame duck questions you want to throw my way so I can waltz over it or what?

Lol, and you completely ignore that all of his accomplishments are BECAUSE of the franchise he's playing for. Yes, he's great, but that fact that he can play bad and the team be undefeated should show you how much better the rest of that team is than what's here. If Mahomes were here the last 3 years he'd be just another TexTech stiff who couldn't make it in the NFL.

Yeah. We know this. I am pretty sure I have said this over 1,000 times already. It's NOT ALL on Lawrence. It's primarily on the failures of Khan, Baalke and now Pederson for not getting the most out of him by not supporting him adequately. Lawrence has ALSO had his fair share of blame to take on along the way. 

Again, many things can all be true at one time.

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(10-29-2024, 09:54 AM)PV=nRT Wrote:

(10-29-2024, 08:56 AM)Caldrac Wrote: This is easy. 

1. Mahomes has the hardware, moments and pedigree to exempt from said mistakes from time to time. Mahomes has shown the ability to make up for his mistakes. His career speaks for itself. Despite all of his poor play this year and his numbers being down? They're still undefeated and he's doing just enough at the right times in their games to ensure they win. 

2. Lawrence does not have any of the above, in addition to that, he knows our defense is trash. He needs to be that much more aware and careful while handling the football that deep in his own territory. We don't have Chris Jones on our defense. We don't have Steve Spaggs as our Defensive Coordinator neither. 

Any other lame duck questions you want to throw my way so I can waltz over it or what?

Again, classic response from a man with no counter punch or valid argument to defend their claim. Got it.

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(10-29-2024, 10:22 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(10-29-2024, 08:56 AM)Caldrac Wrote: This is easy. 

1. Mahomes has the hardware, moments and pedigree to exempt from said mistakes from time to time. Mahomes has shown the ability to make up for his mistakes. His career speaks for itself. Despite all of his poor play this year and his numbers being down? They're still undefeated and he's doing just enough at the right times in their games to ensure they win. 

2. Lawrence does not have any of the above, in addition to that, he knows our defense is trash. He needs to be that much more aware and careful while handling the football that deep in his own territory. We don't have Chris Jones on our defense. We don't have Steve Spaggs as our Defensive Coordinator neither. 

Any other lame duck questions you want to throw my way so I can waltz over it or what?

No. His defense is doing just enough at the right times to ensure they win.

Look. I think Mahomes is the best QB in the league by a mile but you put him on this Jags team? What do you think the Jags record is? 3 wins? Now put Lawrence on that team with an elite OL, elite defense, elite HC, elite playcaller, a defense that has given up 20+ 3 times...... At worst they're 6-1.

Maybe. Maybe not. Too bad we can't play coulda, woulda, shoulda. We can only go based upon the body of work that's been presented to us. 

Everybody thought Cleveland would be fine after giving up on Mayfield and moving onto Watson. That's been a mistake so far.

Everybody though the New York Jets would be fine after giving up on Wilson and moving onto Rodgers. That's been a mistake so far.

Everybody thought Wilson was the issue in Denver. Looks like he's doing just fine in Pittsburgh.

Everybody thought Goff was the issue in L.A. Stafford proved that to be the case to some extent. Goff is now having career years in Detroit.

Point is. We don't know. We can claim we do. But, at the end of the day. It's all anybody's guess.

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