(11-10-2024, 05:48 PM)rpr52121 Wrote:

(11-10-2024, 05:40 PM)enigma Wrote: Mahomes and Lamar have been doing it since they entered the league as rookies. Also, the people who are claiming Mahomes doesn't elevate the Chiefs this year, clearly don't see how that is an anomaly (I'm not saying you believe that, but if you are insinuating that then I'll lump you in to that cohort as well).

Goff is absolutely elevating the Lions, as are their supporting cast to him. To say Goff isn't elevating the players around him in the #1 scoring offense is down right asinine.

Josh Allen is a little more streaky but he certainly does put the Bills on his back and wins games because of his own talent.

I was expecting Trevor to at least be somewhat close to this group of QB talent, once in a while, in terms of positive impact for our team - especially 4 years in.

You said INEPT players and coaches. Are you saying all those teams have as many INEPT coaches/players as the Jaguars?

No.

But what I also said was that a franchise QB lifts the players around him up. Doesn't matter if they are having a bad game/bad playcall/inept players/etc. They OVERCOME those deficiencies whether or not those deficiencies are acute or long-lasting. All coaches make a bad play call, all players fail to execute on a given play or two - but great QBs can circumvent those issues more times than not. They don't ADD to those problems.

Trevor isn't the MAIN problem, but he certainly is A problem. And when your starting QB who you paid a quarter of a billion dollars to remains A problem - it turns out you have a big issue 4 years into this project...

Anyways, it's time for some dinner and drinks - hope everyone maintains their sanity until next week, just for us to be sorely disappointed once again.

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