(11-16-2024, 10:31 AM)Jag149 Wrote: To look at Immigration and understand a broader look is required than just Biden vs Trump. Also all types of immigration need to be evaluated. The attached link will take you to a visual chart that has it's methodology and how they classified the numbers from Congressional Budget Office (CBO) under it. I did my best to cut and paste an excerpt. Under Biden Illegal immigration was the highest by far. 

https://www.visualcapitalist.com/charted...2001-2024/

This chart shows net immigration figures in the U.S. from 2001 to 2024, broken down by immigrant status. Data for 2021 to 2024 are projections.

The CBO categorizes immigrants to the United States of America into three groups:

    LPR+: Lawful permanent residents (LPRs) plus people who are eligible to apply to become LPRs on the basis of their current status, such as asylees and refugees. LPRs include those who are granted that status while within the United States as well as people who have gained admission from abroad.

    INA nonimmigrant: Comprises temporary workers, student exchange visitors, qualifying family members, and others admitted as nonimmigrants under the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA)—for example, officials of foreign governments—while they remain in that status.

    Other foreign national: People in the U.S. who are not in the first two categories and who have not subsequently become U.S. citizens or received LPR, asylee, or nonimmigrant status—such as those who entered the U.S. illegally or those who entered legally in a temporary status and then remained after that legal status expired

Net Immigration to the U.S. from 2001 to 2024, by President.

Below, we show net immigration figures for the U.S. from 2001 to 2024, broken down by immigrant type, along with the current U.S. president at the time.

                      LPR     INA Other foreign national Total
Obama 2011 791,000 42,000 -104,000 729,000
Obama 2012 766,000 -125,000 13,000 654,000
Obama 2013 748,000 -63,000 132,000 817,000
Obama 2014 769,000 824,000 46,000 1,639,000
Obama 2015 813,000 376,000 289,000 1,478,000
Obama 2016 877,000 -18,000 26,000 885,000
Trump 2017 840,000 473,000 -213,000 1,100,000
Trump 2018 810,000 -339,000 200,000 671,000
Trump 2019 713,000 -64,000 -234,000 415,000
Trump 2020 537,000 58,000 213,000 808,000
Biden 2021 551,000 20,000 600,000 1,171,000
Biden 2022 714,000 60,000 1,900,000 2,674,000
Biden 2023 807,000 90,000 2,400,000 3,297,000
Biden 2024 809,000 90,000 2,400,000 3,299,000

Overall, net immigration had the biggest increase under current U.S. President Joe Biden’s term.

Exactly.  Sure, it's good that we channeled them to orderly, monitored points of entry, but that's still way too many people! 
Congress needs to agree to a number and that needs to be the number.  We need to stop letting Presidents just make up immigration policy as they go along.  Because you may like Trump's policy, but if it's not tied to an act of Congress, the next President after Trump might just do what Biden did with no consequences.

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