(11-21-2024, 03:05 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(11-21-2024, 02:06 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote: Urban Meyer and Doug Pederson were both hand picked decisions by Shad. He said so himself in both opening press conferences with the “I got it right this time” comments. He’s a lot more hands on than you believe, or you’re just ignoring those things. Caldwell and Baalke both on Shad, and the inability to clean house directly on Shad. Double GM with Coughlin, on Shad. Pretty wild to believe he’s hands off lol.

LOL 

They have hired a consulting firm or formed a committee/braintrust for every single search since he bought the team.  He had help and advice. Don't be so naive. Or don't be so disingenuous in order to try salvaging your garbage take. 
It's one or the other. Take your pick. 

Like I said - if I gave you $500K to start a business and the business failed - it's not my fault the business failed - it's yours. I merely believed the wrong person's interview when deciding where to invest my money. 

Shad Khan has done this multiple times at this point. And he is not free from blame for that. But so have many NFL owners, over and over again, all around the league. 

Look at this list of NYJ GMs and the win percentages that came from their management:

https://www.retroseasons.com/teams/new-y...-managers/

Browns:  https://www.retroseasons.com/teams/cleve...-managers/

Mark Davis kept Reggie McKenzie running the raiders for 7 years despite going 40 and 72 in that span. 

Redskins went nine years under Cerrato with a losing record and then nine more under Bruce Allen with a losing record. 

Have a look at the current AFCS contenders craptastic history of GMs:
https://www.retroseasons.com/teams/houst...-managers/

I can go on and on with this. A quality GM is like a franchise QB:  There are NOT 32 of them out there to go around or every team would have better rosters and coaching staffs.

Hiring the wrong guy to manage a football team is very common and you're hyperbolizing Khan's complicity rather than limiting it to being the overarching vote in a joint decision to hire GMs (and sometimes coaches) 
He left coaching hires to the GM in most cases.

Yeah, again, not sure what you're missing but you're wrong. He handpicked the last 2 HC's specifically. They were HIS calls. Do you not recall the press conferences? Shad Khan, literally, reached out to Urban and Doug FIRST. They would not of picked up the phone from Trent. The GM's, Coughlin, Marrone too, all on Shad. Not sure why you are blindly not seeing that. It's also been his calls to not fully reset, there is always some stench left behind. Again, this is 100% on Khan. Thinking elsewise is delusional, it's not even a debate lol. We have over a decade of evidence of his horrendous decision making. From a football perspective he's the worst owner in the league, and is the reason we are back to being a dumpster fire. It feels inevitable, that Baalke will be retained, and BB will come here. BB is not answering the calls from Trent, he's going to answer Shad's phonecall and wallet.

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