(12-05-2024, 11:08 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Bottom line is you can't create a rule that QBs can give themselves up by sliding which makes the player down at the start of the slide without contact which is designed to protect QBs and then not protect QBs when they are hit in that scenario. He didn't even need to be touched down. Defenders need that drilled into their head and it probably has been already which is what makes such a hit so aggravating as a fan of the injured team and player.
Also, the league should revisit the fake slide and fake going out of bounds that Mahomes and other QBs have gotten away with and consider turning that into a penalty on the offense. That is creating an awful precedent of allowing the offense to get away with really cheap extra yards either through the fake out or through a defender drawing a penalty for a personal foul. That didn't apply in this case. I saw the play live in the stadium and the replay on TV in slow motion. Trevor's [BLEEP] was headed to the ground before Al-Shaair's legs committed to launching him forward. It was 100% on Al-Shaair, but these QB fake out moves are going to eventually lead to some confused defenders who decide to just light the guy up rather than potentially be faked out. If you visibly begin the process of giving yourself up and then don't at the last second, that should be a penalty.
I don't disagree with Ryans' comments in general given the above, but they were absolute trash in this instance. It was absolutely an intentional act on Al-Shaair's part and if it truly wasn't, then he's too incompetent to be out there on the field anyway.
Well said. Even if they don't outlaw the fakes, they can make a point to indicate that if you tend to fake, it's a lot less cut and dried to penalize the D for contact. If guys like Allen, Jackson or Mahomes want to risk contact over a few yards, they choose to put themselves under that cloud of uncertainty.
I don't think I've ever seen Trevor fake a slide or step out of bounds. There was literally zero precedent to say there was any doubt in anyone's mind that he was intending to hook slide there.
(12-06-2024, 01:11 AM)p_rushing Wrote: (12-05-2024, 10:13 AM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: I am pretty sure it was intentional, he goes for the head with the forearm, but again, what else can Stroud say?
And yes, Ryan is a clown.
He could have stood up and been a leader, instead of defending it, passing blame, etc like his coach or him just ignoring it.
He should have called him out publicly for crossing the line and putting the rest of the team at risk for being retaliated against. He should also say he, as a leader of the team, is kicking him out of the locker room. Then say in order for him to play again, he has to earn his way back on the team.
The NFL is too soft now though and I doubt any player would call out a teammate like that.
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Good luck with that.
