(12-05-2024, 11:08 PM)Jaguarmeister Wrote: Bottom line is you can't create a rule that QBs can give themselves up by sliding which makes the player down at the start of the slide without contact which is designed to protect QBs and then not protect QBs when they are hit in that scenario.  He didn't even need to be touched down.  Defenders need that drilled into their head and it probably has been already which is what makes such a hit so aggravating as a fan of the injured team and player.

Also, the league should revisit the fake slide and fake going out of bounds that Mahomes and other QBs have gotten away with and consider turning that into a penalty on the offense.  That is creating an awful precedent of allowing the offense to get away with really cheap extra yards either through the fake out or through a defender drawing a penalty for a personal foul.  That didn't apply in this case.  I saw the play live in the stadium and the replay on TV in slow motion.  Trevor's [BLEEP] was headed to the ground before Al-Shaair's legs committed to launching him forward.  It was 100% on Al-Shaair, but these QB fake out moves are going to eventually lead to some confused defenders who decide to just light the guy up rather than potentially be faked out.  If you visibly begin the process of giving yourself up and then don't at the last second, that should be a penalty.

I don't disagree with Ryans' comments in general given the above, but they were absolute trash in this instance.  It was absolutely an intentional act on Al-Shaair's part and if it truly wasn't, then he's too incompetent to be out there on the field anyway.

I was there as well. It was a cheap shot. He led with his arm and elbow and he used his arm with the brace on it to make sure Lawrence felt more in the receiving than he did on the dishing out end. Engram wouldn't have reacted that way had it been an accident. They all saw the same thing we saw at that game. 

That cheap shot was probably one of the worst, clearly deliberate cheap shots at a QB that I have seen since Kiko Alonso's hit on Joe Flacco a few years ago in a similar situation where Flacco actually was sliding late. Lawrence at least gave himself up in my opinion to where Al-Qaeda could have pulled up on his momentum or tagged him down. 

I agree with the fakes though. Those should be penalized, the same way you would penalize a returner if he went to make the fair catch or faked it and then decided to run with it, etc. I am still aggravated they had off setting penalties after that as well.

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