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The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts

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(12-08-2024, 01:47 PM)mikesez Wrote:
(12-08-2024, 12:49 PM)Sneakers Wrote: Reload speed?  Strange, most Lefties focus on magazine capacity.  What's your plan, wheel guns only for private citizens?  

Gun mass?  I can appreciate the composition argument and concern over the potential to circumvent metal detectors, but mass?


You can't possibly (and I ask this with all sincerity) believe a 40% increase in the tax on ammo will deter mass shootings?  1, 2, 3 victims down.  Plenty of targets still out there, but that's enough ammo for today.  I'll come back after the next paycheck?

How many rounds must one hold to be "stockpiling"?  I gotta count my ammo and see if I qualify!  Banana

What I mean by reload speed is the time it takes from firing one semiautomatic round to firing the next round, accounting for the ergonomics of pulling the trigger.  It's the whole thing that bumpstocks get around.

What I mean by gun mass is the larger the mass, the smaller the recoil, and the easier it is to maintain your aim. Larger mass like a semi-automatic rifle should be considered more dangerous and more restricted than smaller mass like a handgun. 

As for taxing ammo, I do think a relatively low tax would change behavior, but if I'm wrong, then it's not worth doing. It may be that the tax would have to be extremely high before behavior changed.

Perhaps it would avoid confusion to utilize only commonly held definitions.  Reload speed is the time required to eject the empty magazine, insert a loaded one and release the slide, chambering the first round, and a bump-stock is not a factor.  Rate -of-fire, the time between rounds, is reduced by a bump-stock. 

Recoil is a function of bullet mass and velocity, and the mass of the weapon isn't a factor (F=ma). Felt recoil, or kick/kickback, (how it feels to the shooter) does vary with the weapon's mass.
I think you misunderstand or over value "maintaining your aim".  If the target remains stationary after the first shot, it's likely dead (and was already on the ground, otherwise it would be falling).  For a sniper with the objective of a single target, a heavy barrel weapon is preferred.  A mass shooter doesn't want to put 10 bullets into one person though, but rather, one bullet each into ten different people, which means acquiring a new target with every shot.  The mass of the weapon works against you then, as it requires greater force to move the gun mass from one target to the next, especially as the target field widens.  Wave a one-pound weight around, then repeat the movement with a five-pound weight.  Notice the difference?  
I believe the relative concealability of a handgun, makes it far more dangerous than an "assault rifle" in most situations.

The cost of ammo will never stop shootings, either mass or individual.
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The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-06-2024, 11:26 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by WingerDinger - 12-06-2024, 11:36 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by mikesez - 12-07-2024, 12:09 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Jag149 - 12-07-2024, 03:24 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by mikesez - 12-07-2024, 05:50 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-07-2024, 12:14 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by mikesez - 12-07-2024, 12:41 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-07-2024, 01:04 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by captivating - 12-07-2024, 05:54 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-07-2024, 10:08 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-07-2024, 10:42 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-07-2024, 03:13 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-07-2024, 05:20 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Jag149 - 12-07-2024, 12:19 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-08-2024, 01:45 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-08-2024, 01:52 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-09-2024, 01:26 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-09-2024, 01:42 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-09-2024, 09:15 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by WingerDinger - 12-07-2024, 10:18 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-07-2024, 12:29 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-08-2024, 01:13 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-08-2024, 08:48 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-08-2024, 01:07 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by jagibelieve - 12-08-2024, 01:46 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-08-2024, 08:48 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-08-2024, 11:02 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-09-2024, 07:18 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-07-2024, 05:47 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-07-2024, 10:33 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-07-2024, 11:09 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by americus 2.0 - 12-07-2024, 06:04 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by mikesez - 12-07-2024, 11:06 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by americus 2.0 - 12-08-2024, 04:53 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-08-2024, 03:21 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Sneakers - 12-08-2024, 09:56 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-08-2024, 05:56 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-08-2024, 08:56 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-08-2024, 06:57 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-08-2024, 09:02 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by jagibelieve - 12-08-2024, 10:58 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-08-2024, 11:04 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by WingerDinger - 12-08-2024, 11:27 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-08-2024, 12:25 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Jag149 - 12-08-2024, 12:26 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-09-2024, 09:19 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Jag149 - 12-09-2024, 12:09 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-12-2024, 09:23 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Lucky2Last - 12-12-2024, 09:29 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-09-2024, 02:15 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Sneakers - 12-09-2024, 08:49 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-09-2024, 08:56 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-08-2024, 11:44 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-08-2024, 12:45 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Sneakers - 12-08-2024, 12:49 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by jagibelieve - 12-08-2024, 12:55 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by mikesez - 12-08-2024, 01:47 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Sneakers - 12-08-2024, 06:13 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-08-2024, 02:17 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by mikesez - 12-08-2024, 02:52 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by americus 2.0 - 12-08-2024, 05:32 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-08-2024, 10:51 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-08-2024, 06:11 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Jag149 - 12-08-2024, 09:31 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-09-2024, 09:11 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-09-2024, 09:19 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by TDOSS - 12-09-2024, 11:04 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by WingerDinger - 12-09-2024, 11:07 AM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by The Drifter - 12-13-2024, 12:45 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by mikesez - 12-13-2024, 02:34 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by Lucky2Last - 12-13-2024, 04:17 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by flsprtsgod - 12-13-2024, 04:51 PM
RE: The Hypocrisy of Gun Nuts - by mikesez - 12-13-2024, 06:59 PM



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