(12-15-2024, 09:16 PM)TDOSS Wrote:

(12-15-2024, 01:08 PM)mikesez Wrote: This is also a pretty good post, but I marked it's major error in bold. 

In physics, time only moves forward.  But in politics, time can move any direction for any amount of time.  It won't ever move precisely backwards, as if decades and centuries past could be recreated and relived in hi-fi, but it can angle strongly towards that direction.

The main enduring appeal of Marx is also one of his main errors: he thought he could predict the future. He thought Germany would broadly become a capitalist and bourgeois democracy as the UK and France had, and he thought the UK and France would inevitably be the first to become dictatorships of the proletariat, with every other nation in the world inevitably following that pattern.

There's more we could say about this, but it's enough to point out that Democrats, and you, embrace this today.  That way, every time you lose, you haven't really lost for good, it's just your eventual victory has been delayed.  It's quasi religious pap for people who have rejected or been disappointed by traditional religion.

And it's dangerous! The good stuff we have today, the wide distribution of wealth and power, the permissive social values, we have to fight to keep that, if we want to keep it.  It does not inevitably grow.  In fact, if anything in political economy is inevitable, it is that the powerful and wealthy today will attempt to make their power and wealth permanent, they will pull up the ladder behind them.  We have to resist that.

The only people who even worry about Karl Marx anymore are conservatives. Most liberals have moved into a wanting a mixed model economy, stepping out of the old paradigm altogether.

It’s largely been this way since Keynes.