(12-15-2024, 09:48 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(12-15-2024, 09:16 PM)TDOSS Wrote: The only people who even worry about Karl Marx anymore are conservatives. Most liberals have moved into a wanting a mixed model economy, stepping out of the old paradigm altogether.

It’s largely been this way since Keynes.

'You might not think you're following Marx, and maybe in many ways you aren't, but when you make comments about time moving in one direction and positive changes being inevitable, you are.

No, Marx isn't the only social scientist to buy into this. In the 19th century, it may have started with Lewis Morgan and his evolutionary social theory, but even since WWII, theories that deal with social historical change have noted that technological evolution is intertwined with societal change and does not result in going backward.

Most people on the left didn't want to focus on this in the sixties through the nineties because unidirectional progress as a meme implied a sense of superiority relative to past societies. But technology doesn't logically go in the negative direction. Of course, you can use it to blow up civilization, but that isn't inherently logical.

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