(12-18-2024, 07:24 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(12-14-2024, 11:35 PM)Lucky2Last Wrote: I think the conditions do favor an authoritarian offering to abuse the powers of the state on behalf of the people.

(12-16-2024, 09:53 AM)Lucky2Last Wrote: There are also the Trump sycophants who would see him as king. That’s a minority of people, but I think you’re not wrong to call them out for being authoritarian.  There are American values that need preserving, including the idea that the President is not a king and the people should have power.

I wanted to revisit this.  I've been on this board for 6 years trying to get Trump supporters to admit how dangerous he is.  I'm making significant progress, actually.

My first post here was trying to show you that Trump's claim that "they spied on my campaign" was a carefully engineered, insidious lie designed to make you think that a line had been crossed.  Trump didn't actually feel like a victim himself, he just wanted you to give him permission to cross lines as he retaliated.  It's his whole pattern.  Wah wah I'm a victim, you're a victim, we're all victims, now give me unlimited power.  Now look the other way while I try to entangle vulnerable foreign governments in my personal and partisan schemes.

I think L2L is starting to get it.  There's hope for the rest of you, maybe.