(12-22-2024, 08:52 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(12-22-2024, 08:07 PM)americus 2.0 Wrote: If you think veteran's rate above illegal immigrants to the progressives you have lost your damn mind. My now ex-husband and I are both veterans and when living in Riverside we were friends with a group of folks who were liberals. They didn't care that we were vets as long as we didn't talk about it but if it came up in conversation somehow you would think we had murdered their dog. 

And this was back in the 2007-2010 timeframe when there wasn't as much hate and discontent stirred up by social media and MSM as there is now. Those folks had no love for veterans in general. 

On a slow news day the fate of homeless vets might rank above illegal immigrants, depending on what the story is.

Also, a simple search turned this up. Actually read the article before commenting. Federal money has absolutely been specifically marked for illegal immigrants. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/polic...mmigrants/

I know that many progressives have a bad attitude towards vets and that's a damn shame.  I've also been at bars just shooting the breeze, guys complaining about work, and a vet who's maybe had one too many comes out of nowhere with "that's not hard and I'll kick your [BLEEP] right now if you think that's hard compared to what I did." So some of what you see may be just hostility to the military, and some of it may be they had a bad experience with a vet in the past.  Doesn't make it right of course.

Anyhow.  Thank you for that link, it's a good article. 

Federal money was given to states on an emergency basis with few strings attached.  This was not normal and is not going on now.  Some blue states gave some of that money to illegals, as you might expect.

So, in an emergency, in a blue state, you found an exception to the general principle that illegal immigrants don't receive federal dollars.  The general principle stands.  And New York City was providing housing to all, both illegals and vets.

As told the bolded part, that's a no. Liberals in general do not care for the military overall, anyone who serves or has served. For some it's a pacifist thing and I personally know two of these types, and I understand and respect that, and there may be the occasional person who has had a fallout with a service member or vet, but for the most part liberals have absolutely no care for it. At all.

As for the homeless vets issue. Have you ever had to qualify for government housing? I have. It was a long time ago now but the average low income person has to jump through more hoops you can imagine just to qualify and that doesn't mean you're put in a house or apartment, AKA, 'the projects'. It simply means you qualify and can be put on a waiting list. 

NYC has some veteran specific funds for housing that is not federal or state funded, it comes from donations. Federal or state funds would be Section 8 which is not vet specific, it's low income specific. Some of this funding comes with some strings attached. Have they been evicted through court order? No? They don't qualify. Are they addicts and in a program? No? They don't qualify. Are they disabled through the VA? No? They don't qualify. 

This is just to qualify for one type of funding but they're all very similar, and again, it does not guarantee a place to live.

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