(01-08-2025, 11:18 AM)Jaguarmeister Wrote:

(01-08-2025, 11:00 AM)Cleatwood Wrote: So you’re team “it was all Doug Pedersons fault”.

No.  I don't want to be rude as I respect your history here, but you can't have fully read and digested my post and still condensed it to that.  I still like Doug even though there are warranted criticisms of how he handled things.  It was a perfect storm of [BLEEP] this past season and someone apparently had to go.  Prior to the news, I said I leaned toward both being retained and a mulligan given for this season though I wouldn't put a ton of confidence behind that statement and wouldn't be shocked either way.  I don't think there is a clear scapegoat for last year.  It was a lot of little [BLEEP] here and there that when added up manifested in the results we ended up getting.

Someone here recently reminded us of Khan's comment regarding "I know who I want to be calling plays" from a year or so ago and then we get the coyness out of Doug this year about who is calling plays knowing full well it was Press.  That kinda jives with how his exit in Philly went.  I don't jump on any speculation as the god's honest truth as many others do, but if you line that comment up with how reality went, it's probable that Pederson was so loyal and committed to his guy that he would defy an owner's desires and then we got the season we got for the multiple reasons I listed above and many more I didn't and he became the fall guy that he was apparently prepared to be given how that scenario played out. Is that any clearer?

Somewhat. It still seems like you believe the roster underperformed. Is that correct?

For me, I think it’s a culture problem and Baalke has been a snake everywhere he went. The same problems that he had in SF are happening here in Jacksonville. Pederson will be his Harbaugh here. Then it’ll be a mess this season most likely because Baalke is still here. Whispering in Shads ear that the coach (who he hired) is the problem once again. Baalke is the one who probably said “Shad. Doug should be calling plays”. Baalke is in his ear telling Shad every single issue and excluding his role in it.

They both should have been fired. End of story. There’s no “well Baalke did good on this one move” or “Pederson did his best with what he had”. 

They are all to blame and should have been shown the door.

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