(01-08-2025, 02:23 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(01-08-2025, 01:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: The problem with that analysis is that you've simply painted Trent into some evil character without actually providing any substantive proof that any of what you suggest is actually happening. 

Why not just objectively point out his actual mistakes? 

The objective point of view sees around 5 gaping holes in the roster, underperformance from the players, poor gameplans from the offensive staff, a complete and utter cluster [BLEEP] from the defense from the coordinator all the way down to the back-up safety (and free agents acquired to fit the scheme!), lack of player development, inability to get rookie players online quickly, and general inconsistency everywhere on the filed in a league that requires an elite level of consistency to succeed. 

How do you pin that on one guy??

You can't. 

Probably part of the reason Khan is still leaving the door open to make changes in the front office.

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The problem with that analysis is that you've simply painted Trent into some evil character without actually providing any substantive proof that any of what you suggest is actually happening. 

Why not just objectively point out his actual mistakes? 

The objective point of view sees around 5 gaping holes in the roster, underperformance from the players, poor gameplans from the offensive staff, a complete and utter cluster [BLEEP] from the defense from the coordinator all the way down to the back-up safety (and free agents acquired to fit the scheme!), lack of player development, inability to get rookie players online quickly, and general inconsistency everywhere on the filed in a league that requires an elite level of consistency to succeed. 

How do you pin that on one guy??

You can't. 

Probably part of the reason Khan is still leaving the door open to make changes in the front office.

I’m not pinning it all on Baalke.

Doug sucks too. They both suck.

However, do you see the same patterns in SF creeping up in Jacksonville? Disconnect between HC and GM with the GM blaming the HC for all the problems?

The press conference was all Shad and Trent blaming Doug for the entire downfall and taking no accountability. That’s a snake.

I think we all agree that both sides had a hand in this demise. I would pin more of the blame on Baalke than Doug but they both suck and both should be fired (hopefully Trent will be as well).

Agreed. We can all speculate. I think what hurt Doug is the fact that we went 9 - 8 in back to back years with relatively the same staff, and, depending on who had what responsibility wise? 

Doug had most of the blame to shoulder. He was the one that decided to fire Mike Caldwell and hire a downgrade in Ryan Nielsen. He may have also went against Khan's wishes regarding offensive play calling duties.

The same snake trail that followed Baalke from SF to here was the same narrative and issues that followed Pederson from PHI to here. With all that said. Baalke should be gone along with him.

He has had 38 overall draft selections and he's spent close to half a billion dollars over the past two seasons via free agency and if the best you can do is 9 - 8 in back to back years and now this cluster [BLEEP]? Mostly due to injuries again, same narrative that derailed the team in 2023, he's at fault for that as well.

Again, it was nice seeing Bigsby, Miller and Strange look good... last year, too bad they didn't offer much to the team in 2023. That was my biggest takeaway with Baalke. Regardless of how the coaching was, looked or felt. The numbers don't lie. There's no impact players on this roster outside of maybe five in total.

That's not going to cut it in the NFL. Even if you pin the offensive line shortcomings on Pederson. Okay, that's fine. Why did the secondary stink it up? Why did the defensive front not have any viable pass rushing threats? Didn't Baalke trade two of our potential pass rushers in our rotation away prior to the regular season?

He should have taken the fall for that as well.

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