(01-08-2025, 02:36 PM)The_Franchise_QB Wrote:

(01-08-2025, 02:26 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: Huh? 

He said in this week's presser he was open to hearing from coaching candidates about front office changes and when pressed about Trent being in the final year of his contract - he would not commit to renewing it. 

He also said:
"What Trent is doing and what I am doing is serving the HC to succeed"

Asked about EVP or other execs? 
"We need to add some people - we are lean - if we find the right guy - definitely. "

Are you claiming to know how many people are involved in his head coach search and who they are? 

You sound like you should know something about throwing [BLEEP] at the wall from personal experience.

Yeah no you're missing the point. What I am saying, is nobody knows what Shad is going to do. How many reporters said absolute [BLEEP] this week? Nothing was even remotely on point with Shad, and truly never has been in 13 years. NEVER has been. I don't know how much more evidence you need to know that at this point. At this point, that is an absolute fact. 

He was also asked who HAS he been consulting with, and that it was Trent/Ethan and to a degree Doug. Nobody else. Would he be open to others chiming it? Well he sure as [BLEEP] better be or is 64-148 career record is going to get a whole lot worse if it doesn't start being open minded. First thing he should do is consult someone else and ask what a clean slate means, because to Shad that means firing 85 people including the cooks and medical staff.

I think you may be taking some of his comments from that presser too literally. 

But whatever.

Everyone seems eager to advance their takes on Khan right now. 
Most are understandably negative. 
Most of those ignore reality and rely on assumption and hyperbole. 

I'm not going to claim to know his mind or method for this offseason,and maybe it is myopic and flawed. 
Maybe not. 
But I think it would be foolish to believe he's saying he'd let a new HC push Trent out the door while he's leaning on Trent and Ethan as his only help in a coaching search.
Plus - the question he answered wasn't about the search it was about "football decisions" and he clearly answered based upon in-season issues and player-personnel acquisition. He didn't answer the question in terms of a coaching search 

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(01-08-2025, 02:23 PM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(01-08-2025, 01:38 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: The problem with that analysis is that you've simply painted Trent into some evil character without actually providing any substantive proof that any of what you suggest is actually happening. 

Why not just objectively point out his actual mistakes? 

The objective point of view sees around 5 gaping holes in the roster, underperformance from the players, poor gameplans from the offensive staff, a complete and utter cluster [BLEEP] from the defense from the coordinator all the way down to the back-up safety (and free agents acquired to fit the scheme!), lack of player development, inability to get rookie players online quickly, and general inconsistency everywhere on the filed in a league that requires an elite level of consistency to succeed. 

How do you pin that on one guy??

You can't. 

Probably part of the reason Khan is still leaving the door open to make changes in the front office.

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The problem with that analysis is that you've simply painted Trent into some evil character without actually providing any substantive proof that any of what you suggest is actually happening. 

Why not just objectively point out his actual mistakes? 

The objective point of view sees around 5 gaping holes in the roster, underperformance from the players, poor gameplans from the offensive staff, a complete and utter cluster [BLEEP] from the defense from the coordinator all the way down to the back-up safety (and free agents acquired to fit the scheme!), lack of player development, inability to get rookie players online quickly, and general inconsistency everywhere on the filed in a league that requires an elite level of consistency to succeed. 

How do you pin that on one guy??

You can't. 

Probably part of the reason Khan is still leaving the door open to make changes in the front office.

I’m not pinning it all on Baalke.

Doug sucks too. They both suck.

However, do you see the same patterns in SF creeping up in Jacksonville? Disconnect between HC and GM with the GM blaming the HC for all the problems?

The press conference was all Shad and Trent blaming Doug for the entire downfall and taking no accountability. That’s a snake.

I think we all agree that both sides had a hand in this demise. I would pin more of the blame on Baalke than Doug but they both suck and both should be fired (hopefully Trent will be as well).

Maybe you should watch that again.

I heard them both take blame repeatedly and I'm rewatching right now. So far - each has claimed ownership of mistakes twice and I'm a third of the way in.

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