(01-09-2025, 04:59 PM)OG-JAGFAN Wrote:

(01-09-2025, 04:50 PM)Mikey Wrote: Trevor gets blame when the blame is due. Yes, he misses a throw. When he hits a dude in the hands and it ends up on the turf, that's not him, no matter how badly you want it to be.

He's been guilty of playing hero ball and taking bad shots. He's missed open guys. But far too often there are other factors that are contributing. Either we're scrambling to make up a ten-point spot that we gave the other team by starting out miserably, or he's running for his life because the center missed a block, or it's 3rd and 14 because of a dumb penalty or a pair of crap run calls beforehand.

When ETN is in the open field and the DB punches the ball out, it's not like there are a lot of other factors influencing the outcome. When ETN gets stuffed behind the line, how often do you hear us criticizing ETN for not changing his course, or reacting to the blown block?
When Lloyd is struggling to cover a slot receiver, we're probably calling out the coach who schemed him into that hole. If he bites on a fake, again, that's solely him and his coaches prepping him for that fake (or not prepping).
When Cisco is out of position, yeah, either he's failed, the coach failed, or the rest of the team failed to account for his error and back him up.

You make it like Trevor is Bort, bouncing passes off of players' cleats, or Gabbert wilting the moment he hears a DE's breath. We call Trevor out plenty when he brainfarts a play. But some here are predisposed to think that the QB is operating on an island, and that all of the bad is a direct result of his inability. There's plenty of context. He's not perfect, and not one on this board would say he is. But if you can't see that every bit of his game is an uphill climb against poor coaching, poor blocking, broke down receivers, well, good luck finding anyone else who can do any better in that situation.

I just do not think Trevor is anywhere near as good as some of you think he is.  I feel bamboozled by all the hype and success he had at lower levels.  I already stated this team would be a playoff caliber team if we had just a good QB not even an elite one this year.  This division is awful and should of been a slam dunk to win it. Right now the team has a contact that makes us tied to him.  My only hope is we get a Coordinator in here that can really work with him and fix his game.  Doug was suppose to be a Qb whisperer so i do no know if he can be fixed.  Right now all we can do is put on the seat belt and get ready for the ride.   I am not alone with my view of Trevor Lawrence. Most of the NFL's talking heads would not call Lawrence good let alone elite.  The only thing that will shut me up is his play on the field and  he starts playing like the #1 pick.  Some will just make excuses no matter how bad his play is.   There is no point of keep discussing it because nothing is going to change until the next season.

The crazy thing is this thread started by what the Jaguar Great Leon Searcy said and naturally the Trevor Lawrence defense force hopped down my throat.  I would trust Searcy's opinion who played in the NFL at a high level than anyone's on this message board.