(01-10-2025, 10:17 AM)TheDogCatcher Wrote:

(01-10-2025, 09:56 AM)zbeaster Wrote: I like all these guys. Would be happy to land any of them.

I look at Glenn and Vrabel as men, and the younger ones -- Coen especially -- as college kids based on their youthful faces. I think the former two will project leadership. The 30ish coaches, like Mike McDaniel, are like wonky young savants. They're viewed as the cool hipster at first. But when their wizardry gets figured out or their team's personnel isn't great, it will be tough for them to command the locker room and grind through the tough times. By contrast, Dan Campbell garnered instant respect as a former player and seasoned man to instill discipline and fortitude in the locker room. That's why I'm casting my vote for Glenn or Vrabel.

We have no idea. Everyone is just spinning their tops.

People said the same thing for McVay or LaFleur, but both guys have the respect of their teams, can control/lead a locker room men, and manage a team. Whereas there have been many primarily culture guys who failed because they couldn't develop players, didn't have coherent schemes, could not make adjustments, or their message/stick got stale and fell on deaf ears at the first sign of struggle.

There is no way to predict which guy will have enough of those characteristics to succeed. Some of it may be right time, right place, right maturity. Some may be getting paired with the right star/franchise players or GM to balance them out.

The primary thing to look for though is trying to find a force multiplier at the HC. That is a guy who is able to coach up one or more position groups several notches above their talent level. That could be via elite scouting/development, assistant coach identification, film room/scheme identification, and/or play calling. But then it allows you to devote way fewer resources (cap space/draft capital) to parts of the team, and use it to shore up other sectors.

Some examples would be Green Bay and OL's, San Fran and RB's, Seattle under Carroll and DB's, Belicheck and his def Front 7.

That is how you win regularly in this league.

Also if people really want pure culture guys, why aren't you including the elite Special Teams coaches that have been considered for years but still have not been given a shot?

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